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Oatka

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The Simpsons just had a segment (maybe a rerun) where Homer gets a handgun. The crap they showed was misleadng as Hell as right out of HCI's b/s list.

Item: Homer goes to a gun store run by a Moe-looking character. "Let's see, you've been locked up as crazy, had problems with alcohol, etc. etc." "Does that me I can't get a gun?". "No, it just means you can only buy 3".

Item: Marge yelling at Homer that he is putting the whole family in danger by bringing a gun into the house. "Statistics say over 51% of people shot are by someone
they know". (sound familiar?).

Homer goes to an NRA meeting, with Marge bitching about him joining all those "gun nuts". The meeting was the usual HCI stereotype of Gomers and lowlifes waving assault rifles.

I changed channels before my blood pressure went through the roof. Anti-gun statements to the max -- this wasn't just good-natured spoofing.

I'm raising hell with FOX, not only because of the biased content, but also the fortituous timing -- during the gun control debate. They might call it relevant, but it was just as upaid ad for HCI IMHO.

I can't find a general email address for FOX, so for those of you who want to gripe, check out your TV-Guide type of paper. They should have your local FOX station. Ask them to forward it.

For you folks in Utah and Southern Nevada, it's news@fox13.com. (You might try plugging in your local station number. Just for grins I used news@fox6 and got San Diego.)

Maybe this is all just a tempest in a teapot, but if we don't yell I suspect we can expect more anti-gun episodes palmed off as "entertainment".

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Oatka, that episode is a rerun, not that it matters when one considers the damage that it does every time it airs.

Don't forget Lisa Simpson spouting off that the Second Amendment is archaic and no longer needed, or words to that effect.

I once read in this forum that Simpsons' creator Matt Groening is pro-RKBA. I can find nothing in his body of work to suggest that is accurate.

Did you see Sunday's original episode? Lisa 'Super-Socialist' Simpson as President of the United States! (shudder)

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Oatka

That episode was a rerun, probably only run locally, because in the SF bay area, FOX (KTVU channel 2) only shows the new episodes of Simpsons at 8 pm 7 pm central. Up here, the reruns show at 6 and 11 on UPN (KBHK channel 44 12 cable and 45 digital cable). OK I watch to much tv, but that a personal problem unrelated to guns.
You didn't see the rest of the show. Homer starts using the handgun to so all kinds of irresponsible stuff, like he uses the gun to turn off the TV, He uses it to turn off the lights. And just general goes crazy with the gun. Never harming anyone, but just being irresponisble.. At the end of the episode, he puts the blame squarely on himself. Matt Groening rarely if ever uses the simpsons as a political vehicle. Although I could be bias as cuz I refuse to see flaws in the simpsons.

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If I recall my Simpson's lore correctly, Homer is such an idiot when it comes to firearm safety (using it to shoot out lights instead of turning them off) that the local NRA group tells him to get lost (Dr. Hibbert, Krusty, etc.)

In the end he uses the gun to foil a robbery, and although Marge makes him throw it in the trash, she picks it up and puts it in her purse after he leaves the room.

Being as the Simpsons are as perfect as we can hope to reach on this mortal coil, you are wrong and the Simpsons are right ;)


I did like his NRA sign though:
"NRA Meeting
(Nachos, Rifles, Alcohol)"
 
I didn't see that episode, but in all fairness, the Simpsons pretty much lampoon everything: conservatives, liberals, nuclear power, drinking, Klinton, tree huggers, etc. at various times.
 
More than anything else, I think it was making fun of BOTH sides of the issue. They seem to do that a lot. I knopw this is a little off topic, but does anyone remember seeing the episode where Homer joins a "masonic-type" organization? That one was FULL of NWO references, as well as tons of other popular conspiracy-theories. It had me rolling in the floor! I can't stand it when TV uses it's influence to further a political agenda, but in this particular case, I'm not too upset. Don't become so serious that you forget how to laugh at yourself sometimes too. The end of the episode carried a pretty good message (well, as good as the Simpsons are gonna get anyway) about personal responsibility and now I assume Marge is gonna go for her CCW too ;) .
-John
 
According to the episode where they explain the behind the scenes stuff with troy mclure.
Groening is pro gun. The cash register at the beginning of each episode is supposed to say NRA 4 EVER when maggie is passed over it.
There is also an episode where Homers brother buys Bart a lifetime membership in the NRA. Of course they say it's so he can buy a machine gun when he's old enough and also something like cyanide tipped explosive bullets.
They poke fun at weapons when the martians take over and rid the world of guns so the characters start all over again with a board with a nail sticking out of it.
Can't say I agree with a lot of the shows but they are not all anti gun.
 
LOCHFAL--First time I've heard that one. The register says "867.41". It seems to me it's some sort of obscure reference to the bill from the hospital for her birth. Otherwise, I have no idea why it would say "867.41". Whatever the case, it does not say "NRA 4EVER", and given the contents of previous episodes, I seriously doubt that Matt Groening is "pro gun".

It doesn't matter anyway. As has been previously mentioned, no institution or idea, of any kind, is safe from the show. It's probably the wittiest thing that's ever been on television, with about one pop culture reference every two minutes. Love it.
 
I watched the Troy Mclure special that had the NRA 4 EVER reference. It was like the 100th episode or somethingl like that. I am pretty sure it was a joke. I have friends that swear it is true, but if you look at it, register display, it is definitely does not say NRA 4 EVER. I pause it there once, but I don't remember what it said. It was a while back. Matt Groening would anti-everything and everyone if he based his political decisions on what he puts in the simpsons. The Simpsons are his way of attacking everything that everyone hold dear to their heart with humorous and silly situation. This weeks episode would have pissed off anyone with any strong opinions about Indian (native American) Gaming and Native American Culture. Who know what its gonna be next week.

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The first time I saw this episode I also was very angry. But the second time I relized that they are actually making fun of the antis by exaggerating the stereo types they like to protray us as. Think about it. That's what the show does, isn't it? It takes a charecter or a situation and then blows it out of proportion. If you tailor your political or moral issues from the Simpsons God help you!
 
The Troy McClure special was a JOKE, guys. And the episode in question did make fun of both sides, which seems OK to me. And the local gun club did tell Homer he was an idiot and that guns aren't toys.
Don't worry too much about the Simpsons. It's the one-sided ones that matter.
 
There was a show that was suppose to explain everything of the series and that is where they showed the NRA4ever bit.
I myself couldl never watch that show, because it raised my blood pressure so much.
But you have to remember, this is Fox.
Except for their news programs, which are conservative, the rest of their shows hardly last 3 or 4 episodes.
 
I'll admit to a few cringes at the episode in question, but the lampooning across the spectrum is pretty even handed.

The ultra liberal in the family is a (5th grader?), how appropriate. Remember when Lisa and all of her elitist "smart" counterparts took over the town and screwed it up royally?

Homer is a stupid, lazy, alchoholic, and inept father but he can be pretty funny. A bit of useless trivia: Springfield was the TV hometown of "Father Knows Best".
 
I know that episode started bad, but in did end up good and also showed what hypocrites anti gunners are(Marge taking the gun out of the trash and putting it in her purse). They also had an episode when Millhouse had a girlfriend and they went to shoot in an indoor range. Phil Hartman (Troy McClure)was a regular voice on that show and unfortunately his girlfriend shot him to death. I'm surprised they haven't become one hundred percent anti gun knowing the way entertainment industry seems to work. It's one of the few politcally incorrect shows on tv.

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[This message has been edited by walangkatapat (edited March 20, 2000).]
 
PLEASE! It's a satirical cartoon! Don't take it seriously! All it was made for was for laughs! If you don't like it's humor, don't watch it!

In the episode mentioned, who would actually think to shoot out the lights with a gun to shut them off other than the incredibly less than simple minded Homer? As mentioned, when the 'NRA' members visited the Simpons and noted Homer's misuse of the firearm they promptly expelled him. In the end it was the members that foiled the robbery. (The bad guy got away anyway in a room full of armed individuals as only a CARTOON can portray.)

Oh...it was Bart's uncle that got him the 'NRA' lifetime membership.

Homer : Droplets of genius in an ocean of stupidity [as intended by his creators]. (His explanation of Hinduisn to Apu.)

- Ron V.
 
parabellum, and others. Thanks for clearing that up. I always try to read that register but never can get it befor it's gone.
Is it the cat burglar episode where they are all standing around in the house with shotguns and keep accidentally discharging them?
 
Lochfal,

yep.

"hey, you're that drunken posse! can i join?"

"i dunno. can you swing a sack of doorknobs?"

"can i???!!"

"Ok, here's your sack. you'll have to supply your own doorknobs."
 
Well, I've been watching and enjoying the Simpson's the last three years and even have Simpson WAV clips fire off when Windows aborts (Grandpa's "Oh No! We're all doomed!".

That being said, and I am well aware of the satire to the extreme expressed there, I never heard a rebuttal to Lisa's 2nd Amendment dig or Marge's HCI quote. These are the things that will stick in the minds of many people and not the hypocritical actions of Marge later on. Methinks this was just a little too cute.

Kevin in IN -- "If you tailor your political or moral issues from the Simpsons God help you!" -- I understand where you're coming from, and I don't. However, condidering the antics of the current crowd, perhaps THEY do. :)



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