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Gew. 43 and SVT 40
- Thread starter rdf.hack
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http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/rus/tokarev-svt-3-svt-40-e.html
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/de/g43--k43-e.html
here ya go.....i dont know any thing about them
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/de/g43--k43-e.html
here ya go.....i dont know any thing about them
SurplusShooter
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The svt 40 was more reliable then the gew 43.
The World Gun links are a good place to start.
Both are a short stroke gas piston. They both use versions of what we today would call a tilting breechblock. The main difference is that the locking of the Tokarev is vertically orientated (as in the FAL, Vz.58, ...) and the G43 was horizontally orientated, with two locking lugs.
But considering this quote, I don't think it matters a lot. Both were nearly identical in mechanical function. Interesting fact about the Tokarev is that the weapon was pretty much in a prototype stage when it was first fielded. There weren't exact blueprints for it, so the designers send each weapons plant in the SU an exemplary prototype, which they then tried to copy as good as possible. This resulted in magazines that were only compatible with certain other versions. Magazines from other Tokarevs needed smithing before they would fit in a particular rifle.
While this wasn't too much of an issue in WOII (as magazines weren't a disposable unit at that time) this caused a lot of problems post-war. So a lot of bad reviews from surplus Toks are caused by non-matching magazines.
About the rifles itself:
The Tokarev was an older design then the G43, being developed 7 years earlier. So the G43 is heavily based on the Tokarev, and that's why they use almost the same action. One should keep in mind however that Germany after 1943 was loosing the war against the SU, making their materials produced since then a lot sloppier then before.
Considering the use of the rifles: the Tokarev wasn't popular among Red Army soldiers, due to the need for basic maintenance, which for today's standards was simply performed, but compared to maintaining a Mosin-Nagant or open bolt SMG's it was way more time consuming.
Both are a short stroke gas piston. They both use versions of what we today would call a tilting breechblock. The main difference is that the locking of the Tokarev is vertically orientated (as in the FAL, Vz.58, ...) and the G43 was horizontally orientated, with two locking lugs.
Doing a report on how Soviet weaponry stacks against Nazi Germany weaponry.
But considering this quote, I don't think it matters a lot. Both were nearly identical in mechanical function. Interesting fact about the Tokarev is that the weapon was pretty much in a prototype stage when it was first fielded. There weren't exact blueprints for it, so the designers send each weapons plant in the SU an exemplary prototype, which they then tried to copy as good as possible. This resulted in magazines that were only compatible with certain other versions. Magazines from other Tokarevs needed smithing before they would fit in a particular rifle.
While this wasn't too much of an issue in WOII (as magazines weren't a disposable unit at that time) this caused a lot of problems post-war. So a lot of bad reviews from surplus Toks are caused by non-matching magazines.
About the rifles itself:
The Tokarev was an older design then the G43, being developed 7 years earlier. So the G43 is heavily based on the Tokarev, and that's why they use almost the same action. One should keep in mind however that Germany after 1943 was loosing the war against the SU, making their materials produced since then a lot sloppier then before.
Considering the use of the rifles: the Tokarev wasn't popular among Red Army soldiers, due to the need for basic maintenance, which for today's standards was simply performed, but compared to maintaining a Mosin-Nagant or open bolt SMG's it was way more time consuming.