German NATO MEN ammo

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JBigs

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How's it going everyone. I'm curious if any of you have came across MEN ammo. It's a related company to magtech that deals with all of their NATO/military/police ammo. I've been buying a bunch of their 9b labeled ammo and the information on their site looks pretty intense.

124g (8gram) projectile.
Loaded to 260mpa (37700psi)
Cooking along at 1295fps @10 yards.

That's some hot stuff isn't it? I've been buying it to just stock up and for woods use. My local FFL has a hook-up on it and can get it regularly for me for around $14 a box. Seems much hotter than the Winchester NATO.

Link for anyone who is interested. Also, do any of yiu use NATO spec ammo regularly (basically +p)

http://www.men-defencetec.de/produk...il]=13&cHash=9632615ab88be411c0e8a5c5aa7413b5


Here's a link to buy some online

http://texasammosource.net/9mm-men-magtech-124gr-nato-fmj-500ct-free-shipping/
 
My intent is not to put a damper on anyone's party, but I would like to ask "Why". If I need a more powerful round, I go to a larger or more powerful caliber.

Why would I want to shoot hot rounds and prematurely wear out a good firearm? Please let me know if there is a good or logical reason. :confused:
 
If I need a more powerful round, I go to a larger or more powerful caliber.
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When talking handgun rounds unless you're talking big bore revolver or 10 mm there's not much difference in the standard semiauto pistol calibers.

Why would I want to shoot hot rounds and prematurely wear out a good firearm?
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How do you know it will prematurely wear out the firearm? While what is listed above is warm, it's not like +p+, it's essentially +p. On a "good" firearm I'm not sure how much it will "prematurely wear" that firearm. It might make you replace some springs sooner, but I don't see it causing metal fatigue issues. Now you may argue that you don't see the point of the added velocity and I'm not sure I do either, but if you shoot +p for defensive purposes in some ways it makes sense to have ammo closer to those levels for training so you're used to the recoil characteristics of your firearm with such ammo.
 
I plead ignorance to hot ammo since I reload for all the center fire guns I own and shoot. I relied on the language in the thread.

Since the thread discusses 9mm, I will respond accordingly based upon my personal handguns. I could step up to 357 Sig, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP in pistols or .357 Magnum or .45 Colt in my revolvers.

In my neck of the woods, 9mm is adequate unless possibly a wild hog.
 
JBiggs, I do use NATO spec Winchester and IMI ammo regularly, and have for years. The Winchester and IMI NATO ammo has sealed primers and case mouths and has displayed consistent velocities and reliable performance in a variety of pistols, revolvers and carbines. I have not tried any of the MEN ammo yet.
 
Greyeyes thank you for the test! I do not have access to a chronograph so I'm unable to see first hand how fast they really are...which isn't really haha. I'm still glad I buy it though it's quality stuff. Totally sealed and has functioned flawlessly for me so far. I'll be sticking up more of it
 
Don't know if its all that hot but its slightly, very slightly under +p pressure for + 9mm
9mm Luger 35,000
9mm Luger +P 38,500
 
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