g19 carry mag overthink?

Slimjim9

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So I just passed 2100 rounds with this gun and still haven't carried it. The first 2000 rounds were spread across the 3 mags that came with the gun. No issues. I also just picked up new 15rd and 17rd factory mags that Brownells had on special and put 100 rounds through those two. Again no issues.

Is 50 rounds enough to trust a carry mag? Is 650 too many to trust?
 
So I keep a set of mags for the range and a set for carry. Part of it is the range mags go to classes where they get dropped on concrete and beat up. I run about 100 rds through the carry mags to test for function and then they go into rotation.
 
Glock mags are some of the best in the business. I think a few mag fulls, to include your carry ammo, is fine for them.
 
Is 50 rounds enough to trust a carry mag?
I'd say its plenty. I would think if they work the first time, youre pretty much good to go. At least thats been my experience.

Is 650 too many to trust?
I have Korean Glock mags that are my range mags, and get shot once or twice a week, and have tens of thousands of rounds through them.
 
Failure rates are basically a game of statistics...

And malfunctions are an inevitability, there is no such thing as a perfect functioning firearm, only one that hasn't malfunctioned yet.

This is where people get things wrong... one or two failures and the pistol is deemed not worthy? That's just statistical noise. It's predicted and expected. So long as any failures are very infrequent/rare and can't be shown to be caused by a mag or other problem. Basically, a problem that can't be directly attributed to some variable. That sort of random glitch happens... A well designed and put together gun minimizes the chances to as low a number as possible.

There is a reason the military has a "mean rounds between failure" spec. They know that a failre will eventually happen on occasion, so long as that they are rare and not persistent.

Most major issues show up quickly. Any that occurs after a longer period are probably caused by wear, though occasionally there are minor defects that take time to cause issues. But those are unpredictable... and no amount of function testing of the firearm will help, as the next round...

There are on occasion, infrequent random malfunctions, too close together to be truly random inevitable glitches, and too far apart to be easily explained or attributed to a cause... that can not be explained away... a malfunction every couple hundred rounds or so. Those are usually caused by things being just this side of wrong. Tolerance stacking, usually fixed by a different extractor. (As this is both an easy part to replace, and the most likely source of the problem)



For me...

After a few hundred trouble free rounds through the gun, spread around my carry mags... I call it good.

I put at least a box or two of my carry ammo though as well. And I only use factory ammo that I trust to be of good quality. Most stuff from the big names in ammo are fine.

I allow a couple malfunctions during the first box of rounds, but I will increase the amount of rounds I shoot another hundred during the evaluation phase, just to make sure.

I number my mags as well, so I can isolate bad ones.
 
Given the traditional confidence level of 95%, a 50-round test of a system with no failures allows you to be 95% certain that the system is at least 94.2% reliable. For a 650-round test with no failures you can be 95% certain the systems is at least 99.5% reliable.

You are the one who must decide what is good enough for you. However, testing with enough trials that require parts replacements leaves you asking what the system is that you tested. In that regard, a 650-round test protocol spread over three magazines seems too much to me.
 
Thanks folks. Looks like the two new mags will be used for carry. I have marked them with a 'C' on the bottom.

Just to be the clear, the first 2K rounds wasn't any kind of reliability test for either the gun or the mags. Just me having fun with the gun over the past year. My EDC is a LCR357 in the pocket. I'm working up to carrying the g19. I got a smooth face trigger along with the new mags so I guess I'll have to install that and test it next time at the range before I start carrying.
 
@g.willikers: you did notice I got two new mags. 15rd for the gun, 17rd for the belt. This will more than triple my capacity over 5+5 with the LCR.
 
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