G&A Handgun's article on Kimber

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fortyfiveshooter

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Just received in the mail today the new G&A Handguns mag, has the Eclipse Target II on the front cover with an article on the gun by David Arnold.
Through the whole article does not mention the series II safety once. Even has a section "Action Type and Features" and fails to mention the new safety system!!

Anyone else find this curious?
 
New fangled safty's on 45's

Iwould'nt know much about these new-fangled safty devices on the newer crop of 45 autos. My 1911 is so old it don't even know what A1 means! circa 1918. Its been reworked so any collector value is long gone but she still puts em where I want em (mostly anyway I am a bit out of practice having been using revolvers exclusively for the last few years) :)
 
Well, from what I heard Kimber is denying that there is any problem with their safety.

jmlv, this is not a new safety, it was designed in the 30's. On all Kimber "II" pistols there is a firing pin block that is deactivated by the grip safety.
People are finding that it is inconsistant, depending on how far the grip safety is depressed. While in theory it can be a good design - a safety that does not affect trigger pull - in execution it is not.
Some say that the problems only exist in Commander (Pro) sized and smaller 1911's, but I met somebody who had a problem with the full sized Pro Eclipse II.
 
It's called avoidance. If you don't want to defend or attack a feature....just don't mention it. Was there a Kimber ad on the back of the front cover by chance?
 
OK this is not the one I was thinking of

Who makes the key locked safty on the mainspring housing? Would that be springfiels armory then? Pretty stupid idea in my opinion but maybe thats just me.
 
Who makes the key locked safty on the mainspring housing? Would that be springfiels armory then? Pretty stupid idea in my opinion but maybe thats just me.
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That'd be Springfield.

Of all the new-fangled key locks on guns, it vies with that on HK's USP for unobtrusiveness. Make sure it's unlocked when you get it and just forget it's there. It doesn't affect trigger pull in the slightest. (Which is a good thing as they seem to need all the help they can get; last two Springfield Stainless "Loaded" 1911's I've seen scales put to had trigger pulls that measured at 6.75 pounds out of the box. :eek: )

The hidden upside to it is that when Springfield started using this gizmo, it meant they had to go back to using a metal mainspring housing instead of the plastic unit they'd been using.
 
I canceled my subscription to Handguns a good while ago as I couldn't find any useful information in amongst the typos, disinformation and inaccuracies. ;)
 
I have heard from many fellow shooters and Kimber fanatics that the early models with this safety had problems with erratic disengagement, but current models are operating fine. Any models with problems have been fixed by Kimber.
 
I have a Kimber Eclipse II and with in the first 1000 rds not one problem, nothing, but one day last month the hammer started falling when the slide was released, only to half cock:eek: I sent it to Kimber and got it back within a day. Now I have had four nasty failures to extract the last fired round of the mag. I don't know if this is series II saftey related. I tend to think it was dirty mags, so I cleaned them just haven't had a chance to shoot it again.
 
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