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I have this guy I work with who claims to and at times seems to know his way around guns and hunting. Well the other day we were talking about long range shooting and he says "I have shot coyotes and deer out to 1000yds" I said really that's pretty impressive what kind of set up are you using. He said bolt action 308 I said what bullet weight he said what do you mean I said you know what grain bullet do you use he said 308 I said I know what caliber what grain bullet again. He says "grains you mean the amount of gun powder? It says 168gr on the box thats how much powder is in it right. I say your joking right? He was dead serious and after we talked more I couldn't convince him that the different numbers after the caliber was the bullet weight he insisted that it was the amount of gun powder and had to do with the FPS. Anyway I find it hard to believe that anyone that didn't realize that can shoot to 1000yds.
 
I find it spotty too. However, I tend to give the benefit of the doubt so think about it this way. Would it be wierd if I know how to drive a car but don't know how a car works? But I'm lean more towards the dude being a one-upper. Or maybe since he mixed that up maybe he gets his feet and yards mixed up. It could have been 1000 ft.
 
I forgot to add that he also thought that the .357 Magnum revolver cartridge was the same thing that goes into the .357 pistol(.357 Sig). I am not knocking the guy he is actually a pretty good guy would give you the shirt off his back, its just that he does know a lot about guns and hunting I just found it strange that he didn't know these couple things.
 
I love the stories by guys who claim to have shot (insert unbelievable distance here) and couldn't find their butt if you let them use both hands. I had a former co-worker tell me he shot a deer "about as far as that power line over there". I looked at him and asked if he knew how far that power line was, and he replied it was about 200 yds. It was well over 1,000 yds to the power lines, 12 phone poles on a country road. When I told him how I arrived at the number, he simply said "well, it looked that far".

Another time he told me he likes to take 2 boxes of ammo with him so he doesn't run out of shells. I asked him how many shots he needs, he just said he keeps shooting until the animal hits the ground. When another coworker went deer hunting with him, and told how a doe got up in front of the first guy and started walking off. The guy shot, the doe started trotting. He shot again, she started trotting a little faster. He shot again, she started running. And so on. All told, he shot about 25 times to bring a doe down, hitting it several times in non-critical spots before it finally died, presumably of fright or laughter.
 
maybe 1000 feet.....inches may be closer based on his level of knowledge...I think it would be hilarious to see someone shoot a 308 going 189fps though lol that's slower than most paintball guns :D
 
1000 yds on a yote is very impressive, I could maybe get 200 yds on a yote because of the dagburned mesquite trees.

Distance is hard to judge, last one I shot was 80 yds. I guessed 25. But for my purposes it doesn't change the poa any.

Just how many moa is a yote at 1000? Just out of curiosity.
 
I can hit a coyote at 345 yards(rangefinder verified), my farthest attempted shot was 660 yards prone(rangefinder verified), I don't think I would have hit him if he was in a tour bus. unless someone is using a $3000 dollar setup and talking reloading specs enough to make me want to change the subject, I am usually inclined to call BS on the claim of a 1000 yard kill shot.
 
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I forgot to add that he also thought that the .357 Magnum revolver cartridge was the same thing that goes into the .357 pistol(.357 Sig). I am not knocking the guy he is actually a pretty good guy would give you the shirt off his back, its just that he does know a lot about guns and hunting I just found it strange that he didn't know these couple things.

Well, if the guy's really a decent fellow, teach him. Go shooting with him.
 
Easier said than done.

Sometimes it's best to take what others say with a pinch of salt. I'm sure those kinda guys honestly believe what they say. And if there's drinking involved...... well, they say it impairs judgement. Oftentimes there is more to be lost than gained by trying to challenge the teller of tales or straighten out the facts vs fiction of a blowhard's story. The guy could be a great guy; but this reminds me of the types of bull-shooters I've run into. They're a lot more fun if you are drinking too. But if you're not drinking they can be wearisome if you have to be there and hear it.
 
Well, if the guy's really a decent fellow, teach him. Go shooting with him.

Yea I have and we are going to, but he's one of those guys that doesn't take instruction well. I am trying to teach him the principles of MOA, how much each click on scopes will move the POI and at different ranges etc...etc
 
When people claim 1,000 yard hits,,,

I just smile and nod my head.

If they say something like "You don't believe me?"

I usually reply with something like:

"I believe you make the hits,,,
I just don't think you know what 1,000 yards is."


I had a guy whose wife worked with me,,,
We would often meet for some beers after work,,,
This guy kept telling me he could hit beer cans most every shot at 100 yards.

I gave him the same statement,,,
So he invited me out to their place for some shooting.

Turns out the guy really was a half-way decent shot,,,
He was hitting 4-5 cans out of 6 with a Ruger Security Six,,,
But when we paced the distance off it came to more like thirty two yards.

Aarond

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Some of the best rifle shots I know (police marksmen and military snipers) have no clue what is in the cartridges we hand them. No clue at all. As a police officer I'm continually amazed at how few of my brethren reload or even ask questions about the ammo we use. Of course, many of them are not gunnies, they simply know enough to get by.

I've asked several Army snipers about reloading, powder weights, charges, etc, etc, and they didn't have a clue. They shot what was issued.

However, to a person, both police and military marksmen are very, very good at range estimation.
 
I seem to recall Elmer Keith's story about spotting a bear when he was out fishing and how he fired two cylinders full from his .44 (which he always had with him). He did finally hit it. He also surprised his fishing companion when he pulled out his revolver.
 
bullets don't rise?

I can't wait till you relate to this fellow that the bullets don't rise up in their flight from the barrel. It will take you at least five years to explain line of sight, line of bore and trajectory.
 
Whaddaya mean they don't rise?

They (the bullets) accelerate after leaving the barrel as well. ;)

I got this from my uncle who was a fighter pilot in the Korean war.

And he had two confirmed MIG kills.

When I said, "No they don't."

He replied, "Why doesn't the plane run into it's own bullets then?"

I didn't argue with him,,,
I just accepted his words and let it be.

But it does go to show that it's not mandatory to have any knowledge about how something works to be able to use it effectively.

My father was an absolute crack shot with a .22 single-shot rifle,,,
He was in his late 70's before I finally convinced him there was more than 1 rifling land in a barrel.

Aarond

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I've been shooting competition a long time, did a lot of shooting for the National Guard and coached the AK NG Rifle team.

I've had, and have seen some dern good shooters who have no ideal what so ever regarding the ammo they are shooting.

They just take the ammo the coach or team captain gives them, apply the proper marksmanship fundmentals and come away with some damn nice scores, even at 1000 yards.
 
well the entire body is probably about 2 moa wide and 1 moa tall, the killzone is a fraction of an MOA and that's if it's standing perfect broadside
 
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