I heard on teh news this morning that LA law enforcement was responding to a domestic violence call. When they arrived, they spotted a guy running away, unarmed, with a slit throat. They followed his blood trail to an apartment. Once inside, they did a room-to-room search. Opening one bedroom door, they were greated by "full automatic" fire from an AR-15, but this wasn't the guy with the slit throat. It seems that this other guy just lived in the apartment and had an outstanding arrest warrant. He assumed they were after him. The police offcer was seriously hurt, but is expected to recover. The gunman was killed.
Full Auto AR-15 in LA shootout
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BadMedicine
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Yeah, he probably had a AR-15, with a full clip, plus all the cop's guns, it probably sounded like WWIII putting that mofo down. This sounds kinda funny, in a morbid way 
"running away, ...with a slit throat" And this sounds like the part of a new inner-city sport "urban hunting" "They followed his blood trail to an apartment."
"running away, ...with a slit throat" And this sounds like the part of a new inner-city sport "urban hunting" "They followed his blood trail to an apartment."Destructo6
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I think a blood trail constitutes plenty of probable cause.
The news channels always say, "automatic assault weapon," even when the suspect has a .22 revolver.
This happened in my home town of Whittier didn't it? Any idea on the cross streets or apartment complex? Parts of Whittier are gangland central.
The news channels always say, "automatic assault weapon," even when the suspect has a .22 revolver.
This happened in my home town of Whittier didn't it? Any idea on the cross streets or apartment complex? Parts of Whittier are gangland central.
Dennis Olson
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If it WAS a full-auto, I wonder if this was a planned event. After all, one of our strongest arguments for "allowing" civilian posession of class III firearms has always been "They've NEVER been used in a crime."
This event will be used (if true) as justification to eliminate all class III ownership.
I'm surprized no one has thought of this aspect of the incident.
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This event will be used (if true) as justification to eliminate all class III ownership.
I'm surprized no one has thought of this aspect of the incident.
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken
spark@onestopknifeshop.com
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Dennis, you've got your facts a bit twisted.
IIRC, there's only been one incidence of a Legal, Registered Class III weapon being used to commit a crime - a Cop using his personally owned MG to rob an armored car IIRC.
Criminals, on the other hand, typically don't use Legal, Registered Class III because they can just steal them from the local FBI team and burn their Suburban while the team is sleeping one off at the motel.
Spark
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IIRC, there's only been one incidence of a Legal, Registered Class III weapon being used to commit a crime - a Cop using his personally owned MG to rob an armored car IIRC.
Criminals, on the other hand, typically don't use Legal, Registered Class III because they can just steal them from the local FBI team and burn their Suburban while the team is sleeping one off at the motel.
Spark
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spark:
Criminals, on the other hand, typically don't use Legal, Registered Class III because they can just steal them from the local FBI team and burn their Suburban while the team is sleeping one off at the motel.
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(SLAP - sound of Homer hitting forehead) DOH!
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"An armed society is a polite society."
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Criminals, on the other hand, typically don't use Legal, Registered Class III because they can just steal them from the local FBI team and burn their Suburban while the team is sleeping one off at the motel.
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(SLAP - sound of Homer hitting forehead) DOH!
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
"Power corrupts. Absolute power - is kinda cool!"
Fred Reed
I found a little more info on the report.
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20000922/t000089858.html
Officer Wounded, Fugitive Slain in Shootout
By ELISE GEE <mailto:Elise.Gee@latimes.com>, GINA PICCALO <mailto:Gina.Piccalo@latimes.com>, Special to The Times
A Pico Rivera man wanted on a $1-million felony assault warrant was shot to death by Whittier police early Thursday after he opened fire on officers who were in pursuit of someone else. An officer was seriously wounded in what authorities described as a bizarre incident.
Eddie David Magana, 32, died at the scene, police said.
Officer Jerry Heinemann, 43, suffered several gunshot wounds and was airlifted to County-USC Medical Center. Late Thursday he was reported in stable condition awaiting surgery. "He's going to survive, but . . . it's going to take time and some mending," Whittier Police Department spokesman Chuck Drylie said.
Police said the confrontation with Magana was a coincidence that occurred while they were chasing a man who had slit his own throat, apparently distraught over a breakup with his girlfriend. Neighbors had called police about a couple fighting in a small apartment complex in the 7300 block of Milton Avenue, a few blocks northeast of Whittier Union High School.
When officers confronted the bleeding man about 1 a.m., he jumped from a two-story balcony and ran. They followed a bloody trail to an upstairs apartment. "We were not looking for [Magana]," Drylie said. "We did not even know who he was." Moments after a resident let officers inside the apartment, Magana burst from a rear bedroom closet and sprayed the room with bullets, police said. "Officers were diving down because bullets were coming through the wall," Drylie said.
Heinemann, a 15-year police veteran, was shot in the shoulder, in the hip and three times in the leg, shattering his calf bone. Another officer was grazed by a bullet to the knee.
Police returned fire, killing Magana.
The unidentified man with the throat injury was later found hiding in the enclosed patio of a nearby apartment. He was taken to County-USC Medical Center for treatment. Drylie said he was awake and alert Thursday morning.
An investigation of the shooting is pending. Relatives said Magana, a known gang member, vowed never to return to prison, Drylie said.
"When cops showed up, they were looking for someone else, but he panicked and thought they were looking for him," Drylie said. In a May 1 incident in which Magana held his girlfriend at gunpoint inside her home, deputies tried to force him out with tear gas, but he escaped and had been at large ever since, interim regional parole administrator Steve Goya said. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department issued a $1-million warrant for his arrest.
Since 1987, Magana had served two terms in prison, totaling eight years, for second-degree robbery and possession of codeine. He was released from prison last year and had been living with his grandmother in Pico Rivera and working off and on in construction.
The bizarre nature of the shooting left officers and family members shaken Thursday. Desk officers fielded calls from worried relatives, Drylie said. "Just judging from my wife's reaction . . . they're calling in because it brings reality to the fact that it could happen to any of us at any time," Drylie said.
http://www.latimes.com/news/state/20000922/t000089858.html
Officer Wounded, Fugitive Slain in Shootout
By ELISE GEE <mailto:Elise.Gee@latimes.com>, GINA PICCALO <mailto:Gina.Piccalo@latimes.com>, Special to The Times
A Pico Rivera man wanted on a $1-million felony assault warrant was shot to death by Whittier police early Thursday after he opened fire on officers who were in pursuit of someone else. An officer was seriously wounded in what authorities described as a bizarre incident.
Eddie David Magana, 32, died at the scene, police said.
Officer Jerry Heinemann, 43, suffered several gunshot wounds and was airlifted to County-USC Medical Center. Late Thursday he was reported in stable condition awaiting surgery. "He's going to survive, but . . . it's going to take time and some mending," Whittier Police Department spokesman Chuck Drylie said.
Police said the confrontation with Magana was a coincidence that occurred while they were chasing a man who had slit his own throat, apparently distraught over a breakup with his girlfriend. Neighbors had called police about a couple fighting in a small apartment complex in the 7300 block of Milton Avenue, a few blocks northeast of Whittier Union High School.
When officers confronted the bleeding man about 1 a.m., he jumped from a two-story balcony and ran. They followed a bloody trail to an upstairs apartment. "We were not looking for [Magana]," Drylie said. "We did not even know who he was." Moments after a resident let officers inside the apartment, Magana burst from a rear bedroom closet and sprayed the room with bullets, police said. "Officers were diving down because bullets were coming through the wall," Drylie said.
Heinemann, a 15-year police veteran, was shot in the shoulder, in the hip and three times in the leg, shattering his calf bone. Another officer was grazed by a bullet to the knee.
Police returned fire, killing Magana.
The unidentified man with the throat injury was later found hiding in the enclosed patio of a nearby apartment. He was taken to County-USC Medical Center for treatment. Drylie said he was awake and alert Thursday morning.
An investigation of the shooting is pending. Relatives said Magana, a known gang member, vowed never to return to prison, Drylie said.
"When cops showed up, they were looking for someone else, but he panicked and thought they were looking for him," Drylie said. In a May 1 incident in which Magana held his girlfriend at gunpoint inside her home, deputies tried to force him out with tear gas, but he escaped and had been at large ever since, interim regional parole administrator Steve Goya said. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department issued a $1-million warrant for his arrest.
Since 1987, Magana had served two terms in prison, totaling eight years, for second-degree robbery and possession of codeine. He was released from prison last year and had been living with his grandmother in Pico Rivera and working off and on in construction.
The bizarre nature of the shooting left officers and family members shaken Thursday. Desk officers fielded calls from worried relatives, Drylie said. "Just judging from my wife's reaction . . . they're calling in because it brings reality to the fact that it could happen to any of us at any time," Drylie said.
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PreserveFreedom
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Even if it was full auto, there is no way that it was a legally obtained full auto. It is kinda hard to get a class III if...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Since 1987, Magana had served two terms in prison, totaling eight years, for second-degree robbery and possession of codeine. He was released from prison last year and had been living with his grandmother in Pico Rivera and working off and on in construction. [/quote]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Since 1987, Magana had served two terms in prison, totaling eight years, for second-degree robbery and possession of codeine. He was released from prison last year and had been living with his grandmother in Pico Rivera and working off and on in construction. [/quote]
The only time a registered C3 weapon had been used in a crime was an incident in Dayton, OH. In 1988, an off-duty police officer used his personally owned M11 to kill a suspected drug dealer. The Lawyers tried to go after the CLEO who signed the transfer form, but had no luck prosecuting him.