Front Sight misfires in effort to affirm rights of gun-users

Bob Locke

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ARMS: Deaths trivialized with resort town; concept of community ridiculed

Column by ANDREW WOHLWEND

The issue of gun control has arisen once again. With the Million Mom March taking place this past Mother's Day, the line was drawn for a nationwide debate. Those in favor of gun control finally had something to rally behind. The demonstration that took place in more than 60 cities showed Congress the power of a grass-roots anti-gun movement. But what are the gun supporters rallying behind? The answer is Front Sight, Nevada.
While the Million Mom March protested in favor of trigger locks, a national gun registration and licensing program and mandatory training classes, gun-rights supporters are eagerly anticipating the creation of a city that is more demented than Irvine, and in an entirely different way.

Front Sight, Nevada, is located 48 miles west of Las Vegas and it is being billed as the nation's first "gun-resort city." According to the April 18 issue of USA Today, when this resort is finished it will come complete with 12 shooting ranges, an assault tower, 400 yards of training tunnels, 177 home lots, a convenience store and a private K-12 school. Well, if there wasn't a better place for me to take my family.

You know, some might think that Disneyland would be a better place for a family outing, but Ignatius Piazza, the city's founder, calls Front Sight "a Disneyland or a Pebble Beach for the nation's 80 million gun owners." Sure it's like Disneyland. Maybe if Goofy guarded It's a Small World with an Uzi.

I can't believe that after all that has happened in the past year, people would actually believe a place like Front Sight is an ideal family environment. From Columbine to the Granada Hills Jewish Community Center, how many children have to have a gun pointed at them before stricter laws are enacted? I wouldn't want to imagine what would happen if a shooting broke out at the school in Front Sight. Think about the melee of random gunfire that would ensue after the first shot was fired.

Personally the very thought of the words "gun" and "school" in the same sentence make me sick to my stomach, but I guess other people feel differently. Chris Fisher, who just recently purchased a home in Front Sight and likes to take his 10-year-old son target shooting, said, "It's a sport, no different than a father-son golf tandem."

He's right; it is no different – except for the fact that if you shank your drive someone probably won't die. When was the last time that a missed four-foot put had the same result as an errant gun shot?

Front Sight is cleverly named after the part of the gun barrel that is used for aiming. With this in mind, I really hope that Nevada starts creating towns surrounding Front Sight. I hope it names them after all the children who have died as a result of gun shot wounds in order to constantly remind the people who live in Front Sight of the damage they could potentially cause.

Of course, guns don't kill people. People kill people. At a local Web site titled "Justin's Pro Gun Page" (www.shade.k12.pa.us/students/justin/progun.html), Justin argues this point by saying that, "Guns are tools, just like knives, hammers, screwdrivers, paintbrushes, etc." Yeah, guns are tools. But knives, hammers, screwdrivers and paintbrushes all serve purposes other than killing. What purpose does a gun serve other than taking some form of life?

Justin follows by asking, "If a few thousand people killed with cars, should we start to heavily regulate automobile sales, ownership and operation?" I wonder if Justin remembers a little movement that started in the 1980s called Mothers Against Drunk Driving. The issue of guns is no different than that of cars. MADD forced Congress to look not at the car, but at who was using it. This is what the government has to do with guns. Who shouldn't be using them? Criminals and children. The gun locks and registration and licensing procedures that gun control advocates are in favor of would make sure of that.

Strangely enough, it is the people gun control advocates aren't worried about that do the most protesting. If you really wanted to use your gun for target practice and teach your son how to use it, what would be wrong with registering and licensing your weapon? Chances are, if these are your reasons and you are still against these regulations, you are hiding something.

And don't tell me it is your constitutional right. The Second Amendment was enacted in the day of the musket. If everyone wants to carry a weapon that takes three minutes to reload after every shot, then carry all the weapons you want. I will have plenty of time to run away if someone misses. But don't ask me to just trust that someone who can get their hands on an assault weapon will be trained in how to use it, or be rational enough to know not to use it.

The visionaries of Front Sight are calling it "the safest town in America" because they believe that they won't have any crime if everyone is trained in firearms and almost everyone owns them. How asinine do you really have to be to believe that if everyone owned guns, then there would be no violence?

All I know is that the house in Westwood that I live in was shot at recently. And whether or not I owned a gun would have had no bearing on the fact that two shotgun blasts were fired through our front windows. When I stop and think about that moment, it becomes clear that I would rather have Congress pass a law to keep the guy driving by from not having a gun than to own a gun myself.

If you disagree, then by all means move to Front Sight. Get as far away from me as possible. In fact, they are having a special right now. It's called their Platinum Membership. It includes unlimited use of the shooting ranges, free gun cleaning, a leather holster and a heavy silver card to carry in your coat pocket (so when you all want to relive your Wyatt Earp fantasies, the weighted coat swings back further so you can draw your weapon).

The kicker for me, though, is if you make your payment in full, Front Sight will throw in a free Uzi. And I thought the free T-shirt I got on campus for signing up for my VISA was a deal! Front Sight? "No sight" is more like it.

Feel free to offer comments:

viewpoint@media.ucla.edu
 
That essay was absolute F**KING DRIVEL. And the standard "party line" for the anti-gun-rights (pro-criminal) crowd.

Notice how they're starting to sound EXACTLY the same, every time they speak out? No facts, just "school/kids/shootings" and "HAH-don't tell me about the 2nd Amendment". (While exercising the FIRST to spew fascist drivel.)

I've been up for 24 hours, so would someone ELSE please email that A$$hole and set it straight?
 
I guess the laws that are in place in all states that prohibits aggravated assault with deadly weapons is somehow different from a gun control law from congress in that the shooter would never have violated a gun control law but didn't mind violating the assault laws. What a friggin idiot!!

I think I may just type up a reply to him. :)

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The Glock freak formerly known as Chris...
 
Here are a few POWERFUL, SUBSTANCE-RICH arguments:

"...gun-rights supporters are eagerly anticipating the creation of a city that is more demented than Irvine..."

"Well, if there wasn't a better place for me to take my family."

"Sure it's like Disneyland. Maybe if Goofy guarded It's a Small World with an Uzi."

"Personally the very thought of the words "gun" and "school" in the same sentence make me sick to my stomach..."

"Chances are, if these are your reasons and you are still against these regulations, you are hiding something. " IF YOU AREN'T SAYING ANYTHING WRONG, WHY WORRY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT MONITORING YOUR PHONE CALLS?

"The Second Amendment was enacted in the day of the musket." AND THE FIRST WAS ENACTED IN THE DAY OF THE QUILL AND INKWELL

"When I stop and think about that moment, it becomes clear that I would rather have Congress pass a law to keep the guy driving by from not having a gun than to own a gun myself." DISCHARGING A FIREARM WITHIN CITY LIMITS-6 MONTHS, $1000; CARRYING LOADED WEAPON IN CAR- 6 MONTHS, $1000; ATTEMPTED MURDER, RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT, ETC., ETC.

MAYBE CONGRESS CAN PASS A LAW AGAINST SADNESS

You can't have an intelligent conversation with someone like this. Don't waste your time.
 
Here's the comments I just sent:

To Andrew WohlWend,

It is truly amazing what one would have to believe to believe in zero tolerance gun control. First of all, you must believe that laws would, or could stop criminals from obtaining and/or unlawfully using guns. All you have to do is take a look at the country's war on drugs to see that laws do little, if anything to stop criminal activity. I am a police officer and I can tell you that we *ARE NOT* winning that war. Making an object or substance illegal does not stop criminals from obtaining or using them.

Correct me if I am wrong but I am quite certain that the state you live in must have some sort of law that prohibits someone from shooting the front windows out of your house. Do you not see that a law did nothing to protect you from this person? Luck and nothing else protected you from this person. You were able to continue to live, breath and to write your article on gun control because the person halted his attack after simply damaging your home instead of entering it and killing you and anyone else in the home. Had he been determined to enter your home to do you harm, no law would have defended your life, period.

To believe in zero tolerance gun control you must also believe that the police can and will be there when you need them. In what percentage of actual violent encounters, be it home invasion or person on person attack in public, do you think one would have time or be allowed to dial 911? Even if you could, have you dialed 911 lately out of need and timed the response? Unless you live in an area that has enough patrol officers to post one at the front door of each residence or business I would be willing to bet that the response time will be, on average, over five minutes in the absolute best case scenario. What can an attacker do to you and yor family in that length of time? I can only imagine.

It is my experience as a police officer that most violent attacks are over in minutes, if not seconds and the offender has fled prior to police arrival in a very high percentage of cases. Realistically, unless the attacker decides to stick around and only torture and brutalize you and your family until the police arrive, all the responding officers can honestly be expected to do is secure the scene and gather evidence in hopes of finding out who killed you and yours and bring them to justice. Hoping for more from law enforcement is very optomistic. Expecting more from them is unrealistic. They just can't be everywhere exactly when needed.

Gun bans and zero tolerance gun control laws would only serve to strip the American citizen of the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones, especially children, that rely on them for protection. Persoanlly, I could not bear the thought of someone attacking my spouse, one of my children or any other member of my family and me not being allowed by the government a right and a means to protect them. In my opinion, any spouse, parent, family member or self respecting individual that is for absolute gun control and a ban on gun ownership by law abiding citizens is totally ignorant to reality and unqualifiably negligent in there duties to their loved ones.

If you wish to be a sheep and simply roll over in the event that someone attacks you or someone you love then so be it. You may not respect yourself or your loved ones enough to want to provide them with protection instead of asking them to depend on the grossly false sense of security and protection provided by governmental laws and law enforcement and that is your choice. However, I don't accept that option and feel that it is very bold and ignorant of you to ask me to roll over and surrender my loved ones to the next violent criminal that comes along and decides to assault or kill them.

I certainly hope that you and your loved ones never have to suffer because of your choice. In addition, I pray to God that me and my family never have to suffer because of *YOUR* choice. I choose to defend myself and the ones I love and I am willing to risk personal loss to keep my right to do so. Nothing worth having is free. Lives will be lost because of criminals with guns. However, lives will be saved by law abiding, self protecting citizens with guns. Each person should have the right to and a means of protecting themselves and their loved ones. You don't have the right to take that from me just because you choose not to exercise it.

In response to your question as to what purpose guns serve other than to take some form of life, the plain and simple answer is that they can and do save good lives as well. The loss of the ability to defend one's self and one's family and loved ones from unprovoked violence would be the main reason that absolute gun control and a complete gun ban would be such a tragedy. If the media were honest and good records were kept and studied I'd be willing to bet that far more good lives have been saved by than lost to guns. Of course that would never make the news now would it?

How would you like it if your freedom of press and freedom of speech was taken and you couldn't spin the opinions that you feel you have a right to spin? To me, that would be far less tragic than me loosing my right to protect myself and my family! Do I rally aginst your rights just because I don't think they are all that important to me? No, so please don't tread on my rights!!!


Signed,
CP from Atlanta

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The Glock freak formerly known as Chris...
 
That guy is a very typical airheaded bliss ninny. Obviously totally brainwashed by his Marxist Socialist professors and teachers.

You'll never convert an idiot such as he. (Excellent letter, nevertheless.) J.B.
 
I took a FS course earlier this year and listened to the concept of the community.

While I am not about to buy a lot, and while Ignatius' marketing plan was photocopied from leftover sales brochures of countless defunct Multi-Level Marketing companies, I gotta respect the effort.

The guy who wrote that article told on himself: He lives in Westwood. 'nuff said.

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-Essayons
 
I couldn't resist:

Mr. Wohlwend,
I am writing concerning your article condemning forearms owners and the proposed town of Front Sight in particular. First a word on firearms owners. You are discounting the millions of individuals in America who live their lives ass respected, law abiding citizens. You are discounting the million of citizens who utilize fireams to lawfully protect thier lives, family, and property every year from criminal episodes. You are discounting that individuals like me, a former law enforcement officer, know that despite the rhetoric on both sides of the argument, two things are known to impact an individual's chances of sucumbing to crime. They are big dogs and access to firearms. As to the proposed town of Front Sight, that you are ideologically oppossed to it's core concept is clear. You have that right, as an American. They have their rights, as well. You should not criticize them for choosing to excercise them.
 
Rainbow Six,

Well said.

I will have to send a copy of your comments to the couple of anti's I know who can still reason.
 
Dr J,

Feel free to use my comments, but appologize to them in advance for my poor grammar and typing skills. :D



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The Glock freak formerly known as Chris...
 
Ok, now I don't feel so bad about my grammar. I went to the daily bruin site and see that this moron is a *fourth year* ENGLISH student and he posts lines like this. The goof is in bold type... :D

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>When I stop and think about that moment, it becomes clear that I would rather have Congress pass a law to keep the guy driving by from not having a gun than to own a gun myself.[/quote]

It's pretty nice of this little liberal punk to wish for laws that would keep the guy from NOT having a gun. :D

Ok, I'm done with this one. My blood pressure is getting a little high. ;)

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The Glock freak formerly known as Chris...
 
"a city that is more demented than Irvine"

Bite me.

"Well, if there wasn't a better place for me to take my family. "

Bite me.

"so when you all want to relive your Wyatt Earp fantasies, the weighted coat swings back further so you can draw your weapon"

BITE ME. :mad:

"Personally the very thought of the words 'gun' and 'school' in the same sentence make me sick to my stomach, but I guess other people feel differently. "

You must have a hard time making it through the day without getting your feelings hurt every time you miss the elevator, or they pre-empt your favorite show for a "special weather bulletin", etc etc, if your emotions are really that fragile.

"Think about the melee of random gunfire that would ensue after the first shot was fired"

Think about the mess yer momma would have to clean up from your head exploding after you accidentally had a rational thought.

"Front Sight is cleverly named after the part of the gun barrel that is used for aiming"

Gee, anyone get the feeling that he has no, none, zero, zip, zilch, nada, experience with firearms? The front sight isn't necessarily "part of the barrel". I get tired of people speaking sagely (puke) on subjects outside their expertise or capabilites. I guess he would have no problem with a blind-and-deaf quadriplegic writing regulations on driving safety. :mad:

"The gun locks and registration and licensing procedures that gun control advocates are in favor of would make sure of that."

Bull puckey.

"MADD forced Congress to look not at the car, but at who was using it. "

AHA!!! I guess he accidentally let in some light when he pulled his head out from between his buttocks to get some air. For a fleeting moment, at least, it seems he focused on irresponsible use (and the user), rather than an inanimate object. To paraphrase, and with apologies to, Monty Python- "Mr. Brokewind, you do realize that you are meant to be the advocate for gun control?"

"Chances are, if these are your reasons and you are still against these regulations, you are hiding something."

Whoops! Looks like we'd better pack it up and go register our guns. This guy is obviously an expert and has us all figured out. :rolleyes:

"All I know is that the house in Westwood that I live in was shot at recently."

And the reason that's all you know, Mr. Brokewind, is that what you call 'research' amounts to nothing more than scanning the stock of bologna at HCI and then barfing it back up into your (ahem)..."essay". :rolleyes:

"How asinine do you really have to be to believe that if everyone owned guns, then there would be no violence?"

How asinine do you really have to be to believe that if everyone had their guns taken away, then there would be no violence?


<SIGH! :(> Yet another emotionally driven, factually bankrupt slobber-fest from an intellectually stunted gun bigot. <hurl hurl hurl hurl dry heave>

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[This message has been edited by Jedi Oomodo (edited May 27, 2000).]
 
Something tells me that the reason that article was so long was a XXX # of words minimum required by a professor. :D

Ok, I know I said I was done, but dang, this burns my backside!

Ughhhh.

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The Glock freak formerly known as Chris...
 
" I wouldn't want to imagine what would happen if a shooting broke out at the school in Front Sight. Think about the melee of random gunfire that would ensue after the first shot was fired. "

Yeah, right, like any idiot would be dumb enough to try shooting up a town full of well trained gun carrying citizens. People shoot up schools exactly because there are NO guns there to resist them.

"Justin remembers a little movement that started in the 1980s called Mothers Against Drunk Driving"

But MADD targets the perpetrators, the drunk DRIVERS and to punish them. They are not looking to outlaw cars.

"How asinine do you really have to be to believe that if everyone owned guns, then there would be no violence? "

Yep, if "everyone" includes well-trained citizens.


I would rather live in "demented" Frontsite than in "sane" Washington DC with all their gun control laws and helpless victims. DC is so much safer, correct?
 
I had to get my two cents worth in, both to the Daily Bruin and Andy baby. You may note by now that I've developed a couple of favorite themes.

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It would seem that we have not learned anything about bigotry from the African-American and Jewish experiences. The idea expressed by Andrew Wohlwend that all firearms and firearms owners are evil is outright bigotry. This is the bigotry that says African Americans are no more than animals and evil; this is the same bigotry that says Jews are responsible for society's ills.

Bigotry begets violence. Violence such as the several unreported incidents on the part of members of the so called Million Moms' March.

Andrew Wohlwend sneers at a comparison to golf. In fact recreational shooters are compulsive about safety. We live by very strict rules to ensure that everyone remains healthy to continue enjoying the sport. Shooters do not tolerate pointing a firearm in the direction of others like Diane Feinstein did recently. Nor are unsportsmanlike conduct or unruly or riotous spectators tolerated, in contrast to basketball, soccer, baseball, football where aggression is taught and prized.

The baseball bat is derived from the club used as an early weapon and archery comes from the tradition of the bow as a weapon. Now skill with the instrument is the interest and not killing. So it is with recreational shooting.

I personally do not expect to use firearms for self defense, but then neither did a local dentist in an upscale area who was the victim of a home invasion robbery. As is too often the case, a 911 call brought the police in time to clean up the mess, not prevent or protect.

No one seems able to explain how registration and licensing of firearms and owners equates to registration and licensing of cars. Right now every individual purchasing a firearm from the manufacturers' distributors is approved by the Federal government. Every distributor and retail outlet is licensed by the Federal government. If firearms and cars are comparable, then perhaps every person desiring to purchase a car should undergo the same background check and the same 10 day waiting period we have for firearms purchase in California.

Firearm owners do not want registration and licensing because it puts no burden on criminals while creating a special tax for law abiding citizens. No one bothers to explain how registration and licensing help support safety or stop criminals. One rationale I have heard is "this will help law enforcement because when a firearm is stolen and used in a crime, the police can trace the legal owner in 30 seconds". Somewhere in this sentence the speaker loses track of the criminal.

One dark night my very proper God fearing aunt answered a knock at her door and found herself confronted by two sheriff deputies. A criminal had stolen her car's license plate and used it during a crime. The trail led to my aunt, not to the criminal.

Again, the current bigoted attitude about firearms and firearms owners put no burden on criminals, but rather on law abiding citizens. This is a very shallow approach to a serious problem; scapegoating will not provide a real solution, even if it does seem to feel good right now.

It is about time to stop throwing arbitrary laws at some vague bogey man and begin targeting real criminals and irresponsible people who leave guns within reach of children.

[This message has been edited by Guy B. Meredith (edited May 27, 2000).]
 
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