Frame Melt Point?

Uncle Buck

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My buddy recently purchased a revolver EA/R .357 Mag.

A note in the owners manual says: The Windicator can not be sold in CA, SC, WI or other states or cities with frame melt point laws.

What is frame melt? Why is this important?
 
In an effort to prevent the sales of inexpensive guns with frames of zinc-based alloy ('Zemak', as it's sometimes branded), some cities have passed 'Saturday Night Special' laws.

These were generally designed to target the Jennings/Raven class of pistols, and the melting point was simply a convenient way to identify them.

Larry
 
Melt Point

OOOObviously a Safety issue to protect consumers.

Nothing to do with:

Oh-my-God: Poor peopel with guns !!:eek:
 
Pathetic Factoid

Zemak-3 has a melting point of 718F.

Nylon-6 (a lot of polymer guns, including Glock) has a melting point of 428F.

IMO, like cwok said, trying to keep poor folks from having guns.
 
I've never heard of that before. Of course it stands to reason that the frame melting point is used to protect consumers and certainly has nothing to do with keeping guns out of the hands of certain segments of the population. ;)
 
From SC laws:

SECTION 23-31-180. Certain pistols declared to be contraband; forfeiture, seizure, and destruction; disposal restrictions; use for display.

No licensed retail dealer may hold, store, handle, sell, offer for sale, or otherwise possess in his place of business a pistol or other handgun which has a die-cast, metal alloy frame or receiver which melts at a temperature of less than eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit.

If you read it carefully it specifies metal alloys that melts below 800 deg. No polymer guns affected by this law :-)
 
Very interesting. If it was a consumer safety issue, I wonder why the polymer guns were not included?

I betcha it was because ...:eek:
 
Frame melting point laws...

Including a section of the GCA 68 were created and passed long before polymer frame pistols hit the market. They were one of the criteria used to prohibit the import (and in some jurisdictions) the sale of "Saturday Night Specials", which were defined as cheaply made handguns, made with inferior materials.

That was the public line. In reality, they were passed as a combination of trade protectionism, and gun control, the stated intent was to prohibit and restict the availablity of cheap handguns to criminals. The real world result was the restiction of affordable handguns to poor people, and the criminal class often obtaining a better grade of firearm.

Arbitrary size criteria, so called "sporting purpose" requirements, frame melting point limits, drop safety tests, and some other things were all passed in various localities, state and Federal laws.

Before the media and the anti gun movement discovered the "evil" of "assault weapons" (their terminology, and incorrect to boot) the main thrust of gun control was against handguns, particularly smaller, cheaper ones, under the banner of "Saturday Night Specials". They don't much go after these guns anymore, due to the successes of their campiagns against "assault weapons", and the proven documented fact that the term "Saturday Night Special" has racist origins.

Most of the laws have loopholes in them, that while prohibiting importation, the do not prohibit domesic manufacture of these kinds of arms, only restricting sale of US made ones in certain areas.

Due to the language used, some guns with alloy grip frames are banned in some places, even though they may not be the cheap junk guns the law was created to prohibit.
 
Those laws originated with the same rationale that supporters of GCA '68 used when they said the law would require dealers to be "face to face" with customers. Now no one can tell a criminal from his face, so I wonder what they had in mind? (GCA '68 was passed after the riots in D.C. following the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., maybe that is a clue.)

(Of course at that time, a black gun dealer was as unthinkable as a black cop, and a black president was .....:eek:)

Jim
 
hose laws originated with the same rationale that supporters of GCA '68 used when they said the law would require dealers to be "face to face" with customers. Now no one can tell a criminal from his face, so I wonder what they had in mind? (GCA '68 was passed after the riots in D.C. following the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., maybe that is a clue.)

(Of course at that time, a black gun dealer was as unthinkable as a black cop, and a black president was .....)

Exactly. Gun control laws are thinly disguised racism by liberals and progressives.
 
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