For those who STILL don't belive in the NWO - Global Environmental Protection Agency

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Jack 99

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Yes, for those of you who think us NWO conspiracy theorists are loons, here's an interesting tidbit for you. None other than Prez candidate Gore wants to form an international EPA. So now the World Trade Org has control of our trading policies, the UN would like to have an international court, and the Prez candidate from one of our major parties would like to give control of environmental policy to an international body.

Yeah, this NWO stuff is all bunk.

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www.boortz.com

A GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY?

Al Gore's top economic adviser says Gore wants to push for a Global Environmental Agency. The agency would have
the same sweeping powers over the environment that the World Trade Organization has over international trade. The
proposal has the support of top Gore environmental and economic advisers...but there's no reference to a Global
Environmental Agency in the Democratic National Platform.

Isn't that nifty? A global agency to tell us Americans we're being too wasteful and destroying the earth. A global agency
to be used as a tool of the "less fortunate" countries to make the U.S. into the world's punching bag. Gore may not
have those intentions in mind, but that's what a Global Environmental Agency would become in the hands of the
nations of the world.

Al Gore...champion of global colossal government.
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=109491
 
Hey Jack...[[and anyone else that has some tinfoil stuck in their hats. ;)]]

Come on by my OTHER hangout online sometime...we got conspiracies ranging from Gov to Eco disasters...plus newz and weather...religion and so on...not a lot of firearms related stuff...but who's perfect.

On;ly reason I haven't invited some of them here is since we discuss mainly firearms I don't figure long threads of religious debate by some there is needed here

Tho I know a couple of people here from there. ;)
http://pub5.ezboard.com/fyourdontimebomb2000.html
 
Thanks for the invite.

FWIW, I'm starting to resent being called a conspiracy "theorist." What "theory" are we talking about? These globalists are out of the shadows and openly advocating global gubmint. There's not much "theory" involved when high level Clinton aides say things like nationhood needs to be dissolved and it will happen wether you like it or not and it wasn't such a good idea anyway.
 
I was watching the TV last night; I think it was the History channel. I didn’t tune it in; my daughter’s boyfriend, one of those NWO conspiracy theorists loons did. They were doing a documentary on modern Seal Teams. One of the Brass came right out and said “Now that we have “A New World Order” bla bal bal. Don’t know what else he said. I went into brain lock. I couldn't believe what I had heard.

Well, doesn’t matter if people think I’m one of you NWO conspiracy theorists and a loon. Seems that the Military Brass no longer believes it’s a theory. According to the General it is now a fact!

I also believe, after last nights program that the government is going to use the War on Drugs as an excuse for military action in South America and just about anywhere else the NWO wants control. It won’t be long before the UN uses it against us. But then I’m probably just a conspiracy loon.

I hope someone else saw the show so they can fill in the gaps. I just kind of went numb after the NWO conformation.


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[This message has been edited by Jerry45 (edited August 15, 2000).]
 
I think the issue of NWO is becoming confused between what some folks want and what is possible. That is, there are indeed some VIPs who do want a one-world government of some sort. This is in no way a lunatic idea about a "conspiracy".

I don't relate well to the use of "conspiracy", since it is in no way hidden. It is all very open and overt on the part of many. And, importantly--I think--not every idea which might well involve a loss of national sovereignty is necessarily part of a one-world-government "scheme". My opinion is that too much is lumped together as being part of one grand plan.

What is interesting is that on a worldwide basis there is more energy and emotion being spent on nationalism than ever before. There is strong resentment on the part of many populations or groups against any "outsider" giving orders. For instance, those countries which were once dominated by the USSR now are so nationalistic that it is difficult for many large industries to reach business agreements. If folks are dubious about deals which could put money in their pockets, because of the issue of foreign influence or control, how would they react at the idea of an outside government?

Just because some VIPs want something doesn't mean they'll get it. :)

Now, I have no doubt that most ideas, such as the international pollution monitoring/control would prove unworkable or inefficient, I submit that there are some areas where much more needs to be done in the absence of effort on the part of local governments. The Mexican side of the lower Rio Grande comes immediately to mind. There are some coal-fired power plants--built without scrubbers--which are heavily polluters of Texas. There are industrial plants lower down whose effluents get into drinking water sources, and birth defects (such as babies born without functioning brains) are occurring. The Mexican government shrugs it all of with the excuse of "We don't have the money".

Any real-world answers?

Regards, Art
 
The new world order isn't pulling into the station all at once. It's like a train pulling in one car at a time.

Each of the observed steps (new treaties, organizations, etc.) brings Americans closer to living under the same constitutional guarantees that the rest of the world's populations enjoys--none. Each step brings other nations' economies up at our nations' expense. Each step obligates our elected officials to follow laws and rules dictated by other nations' representatives.

It doesn't matter whether the NWO is the result of a conspiracy, concerted but disorganized action or mere circumstance. It's growth is undeniable.

Regards,

Ledbetter
 
Well, our military forces have been signed to U.N. control and King Klinton is in the process of signing away our soverienty.

Our Nat'l monuments and parks are under UN contro;l as 'World Bio-speres' and 'World Historical Monuments'. That is a fact. You can do online research if you wanna.

We have UN bases in the U.S.,,,these hold foreign standing armies...is that ok in the Constitution?

There are reported 'prison camps' to house americans when the UN/NWO take the reigns...a lot of it is pointing to Oct of this year as the start.

I know i sound like a fanatic nut..I hope I am. But I've been shown on the other board too many things pointing to Oct and seen too many images of this stuff taken by general public for it not to concern me.

Gun control is also part of it.

think about it...visit the other board...visit the archives especially...don't take just my word for it. Do some study. Then you'll be as crazy as I am. :)
 
Do you recall what (Delta) means?, like in
Delta Force. They were present during Waco, and only God knows where else they may have influenced the outcome of a domestic citizen problem.

Waterdog
 
From Art's post:

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And, importantly--I think--not every idea which might well involve a loss of national sovereignty is necessarily part of a one-world-government "scheme". My opinion is that too much is lumped together as being part of one grand plan.

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Art,

Little lesson from Paranoia 101, THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS IN POLITICS! Something always fits someone's agenda. Very little is done "for the public good" no matter what the politicos tell you. If it doesn't advance someone's agenda, it ain't goin' nowhere.

That holds true if its a piece of legislation or a treaty or an EO or whatever. If there was a political item that did nothing but serve alturistic purposes, someone would quickly co-opt it and fine tune it to thier agenda anyway.
 
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FWIW, I'm starting to resent being called a conspiracy "theorist."
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I know that feeling. The situation has reached the point that it is obvious that there is something going on if a person would take a little time to look. It would not bother me so much if it wasn't done in a such a smug manner as I value others right to opinion but generally there is the std. smartass comment and that gets really old quick, especially when you have done nothing to deserve such a comment and you have the factual evidence to back up your claim.



[This message has been edited by scud (edited August 15, 2000).]
 
"Delta" is the phonetic code for 'D'. If I remember correctly, Delta is actually called SFO-D, Special Forces Operational detachment - D. Before that, I think it was the CAG--Combat Applications Group.

Verification on the military bases, standing armies and personnel, please.

I'm not going to say a word about the prison camps/October of this year. People around here still owe me Shiner from Y2K. :D

LawDog
 
Scud: Did you notice, no sooner did you finish talking about the guy who comes in with the "standard smartass comment" but there's Ole Lawdog... coming through to seal your case.
 
Start Here: http://www.infowars.com/detcamp.html

I'm going thru about 4 years worth of archives...fortunatly I have freinds helping. :) Is this one link all conclusive? Certainly not. And I'm not 100% positive myself because I haven't seen[/i this with my own eyes. However, with the tide of current events...it's worth considering.

Just MHOP.
 
Ledbetter: I agree with you on that. I just don't like the use of the word "conspiracy" in the context of the main issue which is one-world government and/or loss of national sovereignty.

I've posted here before--to a major lack of interesnt--that if you (generic "you") young guys out there don't like the NWO, you better put your money and your lives where your mouths are. That is, GO INTO POLITICS. Make your bones, work your way up. The NWO people have done exactly that.

If you're not writing letters, contributing money, stuffing envelopes, working the phones, getting to know the movers and shakers and all that, then just roll over and die!

If you want a Pat Buchanan, you gotta start at the precincts. You gotta find folks who agree with you, and build a local party. You may have to vote as Independents or Write Ins for some time, but if you don't either change an existing party or start a new one, you're dead in the water.

Griping on this forum won't do squat.

It would be pointless for me to write pro-gun letters to Guns & Ammo; I'd be preaching to the choir. It's better to write a gentle think-piece to Ladies Home Journal or some such; they need educatin'. Same with NWO and Congressheeple. I don't call names or mention "conspiracy"; I speak gently about their particular group's loss of sovereignty, and the reduction in economic well-being.

Ranting is great fun, but I'd rather spend my 33 cents on being somewhat effective.

FWIW, Art
 
Battler: You say richer nations pay for problems in poor nations. Consider this: Many of the parts used in Maquiladora plants in Mexico are made in the U.S.; many of the products are imported into and sold in the U.S. at prices lower than 100% US manufacture.

As with cocaine or heroin, if there were no purchasers, there would be no producers. In this for instance, there would also be far fewer jobs in Mexico, resulting in even more wetbacks.

From personal eyeball, pollution is a worldwide problem. We also know that trade is a worldwide phenomenon--and it ain't gonna change.

Like it or not, a form of World Community does indeed exist, with or without any UN or any NWO. (Actually, they're superfluous to much of anything. Inefficient as all getout.)

The question of "Who pays?" in this sort of problem is answered quite simply: "Them what can."

TANSTAAFL.

Art
 
Yeah, I mentioned something to my wife the other day about 'gentlemen' from the UN 'knocking' on our door and 'asking' for my firearms. Her reply was, "Well, aren't we ('you', meaning me) paranoid."

I couldn't believe it! MY OWN WIFE thinks I'm a wacko! So, I let her read a few things on the subject, and she said, "Hmm. The Second Coming is closer than we think." I sure hope so.
 
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