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Hal

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Do you think a two year old could fire a Glock 21?

The reason I ask is that there was an accidental shooting near where I live a couple weeks ago. The article in the paper said the toddler found the gun in a magazine rack and discharged it by accident, killing his grandfather. This is a follow up to a story reported here in the General forum.
 
Yes. I have three kids, and the youngest is 17 months old, and she has the strength and dexterity to pull a standard Glock trigger. I will be waiting until she is 5 or 6 years old before I take her to the range, and my Glock 21 won't be the first thing she uses. It will be my Browning Buck Mark Camper.
 
Kids will constantly amaze you with their dexterity and strength. My 10 mo old daughter is strong as an ox, and she definitely does have the strength to pull a trigger. Of course this isn't by holding the weapon in a conventional manner, many adults can't hold a G21 comfortably, but with enough messing around the child could pull the trigger somehow.

But then the same child could pull the trigger and easily get by the safety on any number of weapons. I believe whether or not it was a Glock is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the someone left a weapon out where the kid could get to it. What type doesn't matter.

Good Shooting
Red
 
Saw this on CNN Headline News-

sad to say, but YES; I do think a toddler could fire any *
Glock handgun, without much effort. Probably thought it was
a toy, even like some older kid's do? I don't blame the Glock
one bit; cuz I like 'em myself; but how come the parent's and
grandparent's of this child didn't have that Glock 21 under
lock and key? Doesn't make a bit of sense to me. I guess
we can chalk that one up to carelessness on the elder's
part? Sad for the child, cuz he probably doesn't realize that
he killed his grand-dad.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

PS: And I agree with RED, there are a number of handguns
available; whereas a child could activate the firing mechanism.
 
I've heard it put this way... If you put a child on top of a utility pole with a cigarette and put the lighter on the next pole down the street the child would be smoking in less than five minutes without leaving the first pole! That's how "crafty" they are. A child can do these things because they do not know that they shouldn't be able to do them.

Yes, I believe that a child could eventually shoot ANY handgun.

R6
 
Rainbow Six has it right on. I don't even trust locks when it comes to kids. The only thing that would keep me out of something that my folks didn't want me into as a child was if I knew they could find out I tried to get at it. I like locks and safes that have a '3-tries and a little light comes on' feature. If the kid knows he can't even try to get at the gun without a serious spanking, he'll leave it alone. Otherwise, he'll punch buttons all day until the thing springs open. :)

- Gabe
 
Its no suprise since Glocks go off on their own; the kids lucky it didnt Kb on him ;). To leave a gun unlocked with a child in the house, and even worse at his level, is so careless and stupid- he asked for what he got. I think the familys lucky the grandpa took the bullet, it couldve been the child who was at no fault whatsoever.
 
I have a two year old that can carry a one-gallon plastic jug of milk. He could, using two hands, fire just about any of my firearms if they were ever left where he could get his tiny little "Paws of Destruction" on them. Never assume your child can't fire your firearm, even if it has a manual safety and a magazine disconnect with no magazine installed. (As it is stated aboev, they don't know they're not supposed to be able to do it.)

We should all say a prayer, to whatever God we believe in, for that family. Then go give your family, such as it may be, a hug.
 
I have noticed that my children (ages 1, 11, and 13) have no problem pulling the trigger of any weapon. But, even my 11 and 13 year olds use considerable effort to rack the slide of my semi-automatic pistols. Would I depend on this in terms of safety? Never. It's simply an observation.
 
If you let them put their hands on a gun, they can find a way to fire it.
 
RAE:

The same thing happened here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area a few weeks ago. A 7-year-old girl picked up her dad's Glock 17. It discharged and she's dead.

I mentioned this event on another thread here and was barbecued for suggesting that Glocks are dangerous because they have no manual safey but a very light trigger pull.

In both instances, the adults were negligent for leaving loaded pistols lying around, but the bottom line is that if Glocks had safeties, that little girl and the negligent grandfather would probably both be alive today.
 
A manual safety is a poor excuse to leave a firearm lying around where small children or even people who are not educated on safe gun handling skills can access them. The best safety in this case is to NEVER leave a firearm un-attended.

BBQ grill is still simmering



Rick
 
This incident did not occur with a Glock pistol.
It was a cocked and locked 45 that the grandfather had kept in the magazine rack next to his chair.
The child retrieved it, went with it behind the chair, worked the thumb safety off a managed to pull the trigger with the gun grip side placed against its chest. The round went through the back of the chair and through the grandfathers chest.
:barf:
 
Here are the gun (any gun!) "safeties" that work EVERY(!) time...

1) Never leave your loaded firearm unattended...PERIOD!

2) When you must leave a firearm unattended, lock the firearm in one case...the ammunition (removed from the clip/cylinder) in another case.

3) If ever unable (for ANY REASON!) to do one (or all) of the above, immediately sell your firearm and buy a baseball bat!

Be Safe...PERIOD!!

I have 2 small (6 & 10 year old) children at home...I carry a GLOCK G27 and a Kel-Tec P32 every day and have NEVER found a minute (second!) when it was necessary to leave one of them unattended while loaded.
 
Gravity,
Can you please provide a reference? The story, as reported in the Akron Beacon Journal ID'd the gun as a Glock 21. The story ran on Aug 15'th on the first page of the Local section. I thought it was odd at the time I read it since the Beacon *Urinal* never gives details like gun make/model.

www.ohio.com/bj/news/docs/021768.htm
BY KYMBERLI HAGELBERG
Beacon Journal staff writer

PLAIN TWP.: The loaded gun that a grandson used to fatally shoot Thomas Hopps may have been at the man's side because he feared a former son-in-law would break into his house.

Records from the Stark County Sheriff's Department show Hopps' daughter Andrea Brumbaugh filed a complaint Aug. 8 that she had received a call at work from an unknown man who warned her that ex-husband Mark David Brumbaugh planned to break into the Hopps residence on Knollridge Circle Northeast.

Mark Brumbaugh is wanted for violating a parole agreement stemming from a 1994 prison sentence for theft and burglary. Yesterday, Ohio Adult Parole Authority spokeswoman JoEllen Culp said his whereabouts have been unknown since late July.

Andrea Brumbaugh is the mother of the 2-year-old boy sheriff's investigators believe accidentally shot Hopps early Sunday while playing with the 55-year-old's Glock 21, a .45-caliber semiautomatic handgun. The mother and a 14-year-old granddaughter were also in the room when the shooting occurred. Deputies were told the boy was out of sight of all three. <snip>
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