FN P90 with "military parts"? I call BS.

Beretta686

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I over-heard someone at a gunstore talking about how their Civilian FN P90 came from the factory with "military parts" and that if you move a certain spring it will go full-auto (as in an on/off full auto, not select-fire).

I threw the BS flag, but they insisted that early model P90's came with "military parts" before FN figured it out and fixed it. Has anyone else heard this?

If it's true I'd find it very surprising as there's usually a huge difference between civilian semi-autos and machine-guns (such as the AR-15 vs M-16 or no open-bolt semi-autos, etc, etc). I doubt that FN would make such a mistake, but who knows?


PS- This is a yes/no technical question, not an excuse for people to go on rants about the NFA and how if you do this the ATF's jack-booted-thugs will swoop down in their black helicopters to molest you in a Glenn Beck FEMA death-camp. I called BS on someone and want to find out if I was right or not.
 
I over-heard someone at a gunstore talking about

I've heard the dumbest things said at gun stores, so right of the bat I'm inclined to agree with you. I've never heard anything about it, but to be fair I really know nothing about the gun you've mentioned.

Mainly I just wanted to throw my comment in about hearing things at gun stores.
 
The legal liability of marketing a weapon capable of going full auto would be tremendous, as well as prohibited by the BATFE. If it were possible to easily modify the design to allow full auto operation, the BATFE would have seized the firearms. That said, it may have "military" parts in it, as the mere presence of military parts in a firearm do not make it full auto.

And next time, before you call BS on anyone, be sure of your facts.
 
I have a Norinco SKS that I used to shoot. Then at the range one time it fired twice with one trigger pull. I thought that was strange to say the least, wasn't even 100% sure because there were several others there shooting at the same time and I thought it might have just been me mistakenly thinking it had happened.

I took it home and gave it a going over, everythink seemed to be OK so I reassembled it and put it away. Then I was out alone at the range and it happened again, no doubt about it, two rounds on one trigger pull. I have not fired that one since. God forbid that it should ever go full auto and empty the magazine even if the trigger were released...

I realize that this is an intermittant malfunction and not a gun that is capable of full auto fire due to design, manufacture, or incorrect parts usage error. It may be due to weak springs or something of that nature. I do not know if Norinco used any "military parts" in the manufacture of these rifles, but it would not suprise me if they did, or if they were using up on hand stock of parts manufactured for the Chinese military to assemble these rifles. I bought it new so I highly doubt that it's due to parts wear. I don't think I put more than a couple hundred rounds through it.

Maybe now that I'm getting back into shooting I'll take it to a gunsmith to figure this out but in the meanwhile I'll just use my former Soviet SKS if I want to shoot one of those rifles.
 
The original trigger packs that came with the guns could be tinkered with to become full auto. They do not use the same trigger pack anymore.
 
Anything is possible,they used to sell AR-15 kits that were basically excess M-16 parts with the auto sear hook cut off of the hammer.Even without any other 16 parts you'd occasionally get a hammer with not enough sear to hold the hammer back,and things would get interesting.Until you hold both hammers together you wouldn't think there would be much difference.
 
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