FN FAL

sigshepardo

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I am looking to build a FAL. Most of the parts will come from DS arms. I want a to build a gun that will be short and light enough to take on targets at 20 yards. But be accurate enough to hit targets at 200 yards. I want to know in detail what I should build, type 1 or type 2 reciver, 16 or 18 inch barrel, etc. I know there's a lot of you die hard FAL guys out there and I'm definately one of them, share some of your ideas.
 
I'd go with an 18" anything under that is wasted with the ,308 case capacity. The front sight has to shorten as the barrel is chopped more so with a 16"BBl you're going to have no front sight post, just a tit. Gas has to be reworked for reliable functioning in 16"BBls as well.
Receiver type 1, 11, or 111 is purely a cosmetic choice, all are completely functional. Do make sure that the upper & lower are of the same type though or you'll find the rear of the upper & the recoil shield don't line up.
 
You could probably get away with the 18'' barrel fine. It will be able to touch a target at 200 no problem and then you'll have plenty of control for the up close targets.

The FAL is a tough build compared to most rifles. Is this the first weapon you've built? If so I would become friends with a reliable gunsmith and check out falrifles.com and weaponeer.net (though on weaponeer you'll have to wade through the crap to find the gold).

Let me know how it goes, I've been thinking about building one after I finish my PSL. :D
 
It can be done, although some of the assembly is gunsmith level, requiring expensive tools, and should be farmed out. You can get it built.

The underlying assumption is that a main battle rifle built for long range performance using ammo good out to 600m is appropriate for cutting down into a carbine for near PDW use. FN's answer was the Para. What you get for the effort is a long action carbine that weighs two pounds more than the intermediate assault rifles that universally dominate that application.

Weapons in the military are chosen in a process that analyzes the various engagement ranges and the nature of the target. That narrows down the cartridge and caliber quickly. In this case, 20 feet to 200m is well out of the medium machine gun cartridge profile. From there, the barrel length that's optimum for the range, then the type upper receiver, stock/furniture, and what necessary accessories come last.

A broad overview would show most guns selected or recently designed for that job use intermediate calibers, have closed uppers on the receiver with picitinny rails, almost universally use an optic, allow for stock length of pull adjustment for armored vest wear, and the option of rails to mount vision enhancement devices. One major need is ergonomic controls with ambidextrous ability.

That's how much carbines have progressed in the 50 years since the FAL was introduced - and it wasn't a carbine. That's not to say it can't be done, but the essential features won't be there compared to modern ones. It'll be similar to a tanker Garand, which isn't morally wrong - but not exactly the result some expect. The SCAR would be a lot closer.
 
The FAL is a tough build compared to most rifles.
I'll debate that comment.
You will need barrel vice & receiver wrench, pin gauges & some way of checking headspace, but that's pretty much standard for any rifle build except for the pin gauges. 99% of FAL "building" is just assembly, as in "bolting stuff together."
I've seen them built on a living room carpet, using 2X4 as cheater bars.:eek:

Head-spacing/barrel timing is the only tough part & that is wildly over stated by some.
 
I'll debate that comment.

That's just what I've heard from guys I talk to who are also into building their own firearms. I looked up a build for one online and I don't think I would have a problem with it, but if it's the OP's first build I would probably recommend he start his 'smithing' on a little easier platform.
 
The FAL is a tough build compared to most rifles. Is this the first weapon you've built?
I built two. My first builds of any firearm. The info at the www.Falfiles.com forum is invaluable. Those guys know FALs.

There is nothing especially difficult if you have the right tools. Timing the barrel can be tricky, but there are some tricks for that. Headspace is easy, it's set with a locking shoulder (they come in different sizes).

Building a FAL is easier than an AK (no rivets or bending sheet metal), but more difficult than an AR-15. Then again, building an AR15 is only slightly more challenging than assembling Legos.

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Austrian STG Kit on Dan Coonan receiver

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Brazillian Imbel kit on Dan Coonan receiver
 
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Then again, building an AR15 is only slightly more challenging than assembling Legos.

Best comment I've read on this site by far. I would buy you a beer if you were near. :D

Hmm... I think I might give one a whirl after I finish my PSL...
 
Great comments. However maby I worded it wrong. I'm not going to be building it per say. But I want imput on what types of parts perform best for 20 to 200 yards. So when I do go to buy it I know what I want put on it to fit the best for its purpose. I want it to be the perfect general shooter.
 
I looked into building one last year and discovered I could buy on complete less expensive than the parts to build one.

So I built a 1919a4 instead :D


Doug
 
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