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Flussstahl Krupp 20ga Double barrel
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Jim Watson
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Flusstahl Krupp means the barrels are made out of "fluid steel" (not Damascus) produced by the German industrial giant Krupp. Says nothing of the origin, make or quality of the gun as a whole. We need pictures and a detailed listing of all markings to even start on discussing the gun.
Flussstahl Krupp couble barrel 20 ga
On the left barrel it says Edouard De Beaumont and on the right, it says Ruremonde. It has flowery engraved metal around where the gun breaks apart, and the grip and forearm is all engraved as well. I will post pictures asap. I hope this helps.
Colter
On the left barrel it says Edouard De Beaumont and on the right, it says Ruremonde. It has flowery engraved metal around where the gun breaks apart, and the grip and forearm is all engraved as well. I will post pictures asap. I hope this helps.
Colter
Jim Watson
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Edouard De Beaumont is best known for designing the Dutch Beaumont infantry rifle in the 1870s. I find a little mention that he was also involved in shotgun manufacture. Ruremond is a town or city in Holland, but I cannot confirm that is where he operated.
More than I ever wanted to know about the man. Only one mention of shotguns.
www.eddydebeaumont.nl/Beaumont rifle.htm
"Next to Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) both Stevens and De Beaumont were also ordinary traders and marketed a wide range of other products both for the professional as for the consumer market such as bayonets, machetes, sables and shotguns. Hence not every item marked with their name is actually produced by them."
www.eddydebeaumont.nl/Beaumont rifle.htm
"Next to Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) both Stevens and De Beaumont were also ordinary traders and marketed a wide range of other products both for the professional as for the consumer market such as bayonets, machetes, sables and shotguns. Hence not every item marked with their name is actually produced by them."
Bill DeShivs
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If you find a value, cut it in half because of the "restoration."
I sure wish you'd asked first....
Well intentioned "Restoration" has ruined the value of many an old firearm and oft the fun factor also.
An acquaintance back in the 60s had his ancestral C&B Colt redone by Bubba and Sons. Not only the value was reduced by 75%, it wasn't the way it was when his ancestor took it off after Lee surrendered. As he aged, he regretted hs actions deeply.
Most collectors will tell you they'd rather see a bit of rust than shiny new metal surfaces, not matter how well done. However, condition determines value 90% of the time.
As for the piece in question, chances are it was duffle bagged back from Europe around 1945.
It's almost certain to be chambered for 2 1/2" shells, not the more modern 2 3/4" 16 gauge stuff we shoot now. Chokes are overly tight as a rule also.
The 6.5mm barrel could be for the Mannlicher, Mauser, Italian, or other 6.5 cartridge, many which are not currently stocked at your local gun shop, much less Wally World.
Upside, almost ALL Drillings( The word comes from the German word for three) are well made, high end guns and quite functional IF you can find ammo and if the last 80 years or so have been kind.
Parts? Heck, no. Many makers worked in small shops and filed/forged out parts as needed.
Worth $125? Certainly.
Worth $1250? Possibly.
Worth getting to a qualified smith for a lookover?
Absolutely.
HTH....
Well intentioned "Restoration" has ruined the value of many an old firearm and oft the fun factor also.
An acquaintance back in the 60s had his ancestral C&B Colt redone by Bubba and Sons. Not only the value was reduced by 75%, it wasn't the way it was when his ancestor took it off after Lee surrendered. As he aged, he regretted hs actions deeply.
Most collectors will tell you they'd rather see a bit of rust than shiny new metal surfaces, not matter how well done. However, condition determines value 90% of the time.
As for the piece in question, chances are it was duffle bagged back from Europe around 1945.
It's almost certain to be chambered for 2 1/2" shells, not the more modern 2 3/4" 16 gauge stuff we shoot now. Chokes are overly tight as a rule also.
The 6.5mm barrel could be for the Mannlicher, Mauser, Italian, or other 6.5 cartridge, many which are not currently stocked at your local gun shop, much less Wally World.
Upside, almost ALL Drillings( The word comes from the German word for three) are well made, high end guns and quite functional IF you can find ammo and if the last 80 years or so have been kind.
Parts? Heck, no. Many makers worked in small shops and filed/forged out parts as needed.
Worth $125? Certainly.
Worth $1250? Possibly.
Worth getting to a qualified smith for a lookover?
Absolutely.
HTH....