florida law???

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what does the law state on owning a weapon and then modifying it to full auto. with out registering it or obtaining a class III liscense.. say taking a mac-10 semi-auto and turning it into full auto, or say an ak-47 semi-auto and doing the same thing?
DISCLAIMER: i personally do not own these weapons, nor do i associate with the idiot that owns them any more due to lack of intellagence and a very large ego that said person has.. the reason for asking is that; said person is in the armed forces (OSI might need to know) and i am trying to prove a point to my girlfriend that it is highly illegal..
thank you for any information
 
You can see what Packing.org has to say about it, but state law doesn't matter. The feds require Class III license and registration. Local laws may only be more stringent than Federal law, not more lax.
If he pops up with the fact that some states have shorter waiting periods, that law has provisions that allow for shorter periods if those states have a background checking system that meets certain criteria.
 
Florida law and Federal law says the individual will spend the next TEN years in a federal prison for possession of an unregistered machinegun when he gets caught. Following his jail term, he will be a convicted felon with a lifetime ban on owning firearms of any type. Being in the military or with any other government agency makes no difference, with the exception of being in the military gets him a Dishonorable Discharge.
 
From the BATF FAQs:

(M8) What can happen to someone who has an NFA firearm which is not registered to him? [Back]

Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself.

[49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861 and 5872]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#m8
 
If he's *lucky* he'll only spend ten years in a federal PMITA prison. More likely they'll add on other charges that extend his stay. Mere posession of an auto sear is the same as posession of an unlicensed machine gun according to federal law.

Tell your buddy that it's completely illegal.. over the phone... long distance. If he's serious about doing this, you don't want to be anywhere near him when he gets caught. BATFE casts a wide net.
 
point to consider

The people who shelterd The Oklahoma City bomber wound up with 10-12 years of prison time because they didn't tell the Feds what he was planning. They said they didn't think he was serious. Feds (and court) thought otherwise.

If your former friend commits a (machine gun) federal felony, and you have knowledge of it and don't say anything, you may be guilty of "conspiracy". CYA, so that if this idiot hangs himself, you are caught with the same rope.

Some professional legal advice might be in order.
 
Like in every other State I know of, Florida Law defers to Federal Law on this issue. The local Florida Sheriff has to sign off on your being allowed to own a Class III, but even that is provided for in Federal Law.
 
the truth be known, it is hearsay what he owns, i have never seen the weapons or never discussed it with him. the part that worries me is that his ex-roommant now my girlfriend lives with me and has told me of this. i am 100% for the ownership of firearms, as long as it is legal. my step father and i are both in the process of getting our ccw, and i am wanting to hopefully someday soon be able to purchuse a class III gun legally for collection. kind of a college graduation present to my-self. so the problem is should my g/f "rat" him out or what. should i be worried since the knowledge i have is hearsay? and that see lives with my family and i, she still on occasion converses with him.
thank you all for any and all info
 
I would say, your judged by the company you keep. if I were you I'd stay as far away from this feller as possible and would probably advise your GF of the same. No sense in getting in a sticky situation by accidentally being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
say taking a mac-10 semi-auto and turning it into full auto, or say an ak-47 semi-auto and doing the same thing?
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Isn't there also an issue in manufacturing an automatic weapon in defiance of a 1986 law forbidding it?
 
Good point. If and when this is tried and the guy charged, the Feds will give us the total rundown. Since the media will have a fieldday with this, we couldn't possible miss it.
 
If you get caught with an illegal weapon in North East Florida you will be sent to prison at Raiford.......there you will find out the true nature of Brokeback Mountain....
 
thank you for the info,, WATCH THE NEWS!!! in about the next week or so going to make it known, for the saftey and lively hood of my girlfriend
 
OK y'all, I'm interjecting my .02 cents worth in this time. I'm usp's girlfriend and the ex-roommate of the idiot in question. At the time I was living with him I had no clue what firearm laws were in place so I never thought to question anything. After reading this thread and looking into it a bit more I placed a phone call to the local sheriff's office about 20 minutes ago. I was told by the deputy on duty that it is not criminal to have knowledge of someone owning an automatic weapon. I questioned him again (with what I've read on here and in other places) and he again reassured me that it is not criminal to know about it.

My main question/concern is do I just drop it here and try not to have any further contact with him or are there other steps I need to be taking?

I sincerely appreciate everyone's input.
 
I was told by the deputy on duty
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Now call the DA or BATF and ask the same question and see if you can get it in writing.

A street cop has a working knowledge of the law in general a DA is a specialist.

I used to do work for four different agencies two city and two county sheriff dept.
The amount of misinformation given out by LEOs is staggering.

Keep this in mind when you are arrested by a LEO he is arresting you on suspicion it's the DA that decides whether you have actually committed a chargeable offense
 
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