FL: Police arm themselves with high-powered rifles

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St. Petersburg Times (Florida)
April 25, 2005 Monday
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Police arm themselves with high-powered rifles

ALEX LEARY

More than 100 St. Petersburg officers have ordered assault rifles.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/04/25/Southpinellas/Police_arm_themselves.shtml

ST. PETERSBURG - In November of 2002 a Ruskin man stole a truck and
threatened its owner with an assault rifle. He then led Hillsborough
sheriff's deputies on a half-hour chase, firing at them along the way.

Six months later, a man hiding in a patch of woods in east Pasco County
fired an assault rifle at a sheriff's cruiser, killing a popular deputy.

Earlier this month, a man stood outside a St. Petersburg day care waving an
assault rifle and yelling threats to his girlfriend inside. The staff locked
the doors and huddled children in closets.

High-powered rifles are increasingly visible in the Tampa Bay area, and with
the expiration of a 10-year ban on their sale, law enforcement agencies fear
they will see more.

So they are enhancing their own firepower. In recent years, Tampa police and
deputies in Hillsborough and Pinellas started carrying assault rifles.

Now, St. Petersburg patrol officers are equipping themselves with Colt
AR-15s - the same weapon U.S. troops carry in Iraq, only semiautomatic. The
bullets can travel up to 2,700 feet per second and are powerful enough to
penetrate body armor.

"St. Petersburg, it's not so sleepy anymore," said Tom Jacwin, a 22-year
veteran who was at the firing range recently, getting used to his new
weapon. "The bad guys are smarter and better armed."

The first group of officers completed the required 16 hours of instruction
in late January; more than 100 - roughly a fifth of the total force - have
ordered the rifles so far, exceeding department expectations. Use is
optional.

Officers say the rifles provide a layer of comfort, even if they have not
had to fire a single shot beyond the practice range.

"The situation in the world has changed," said police Chief Chuck Harmon,
citing Columbine and other school shootings, the threat of terrorism and
local concerns.

One of the selling points was an April 2003 shootout in which a bullet from
an SKS assault rifle grazed officer Tim Virden in the head as he chased
gunmen wanted in a series of drive-by shootings, one fatal.

The bullet, fired from a speeding car, sailed through the windshield, grazed
Virden, then pierced the Plexiglas prisoner barrier and blew out the rear
window. Virden stopped the shooters only after ramming his car into theirs.

"Let's say those guys pulled over. They are shooting a weapon with a range
of 300 yards," said Sgt. Phil Quandt, Fraternal Order of Police
representative. "We're shooting a weapon with an effective range of 25
yards. Assault rifles would have evened the field considerably."

Harmon approved use of the Colt AR-15 last June but called for guidelines
that took months to develop. A rifle may be used, the guidelines state, when
an officer is confronted "with a high-risk situation such as to overcome
suspects with superior firepower; in response to an active shooter
situation; when confronted by barricaded subjects; during stakeout and
perimeter operations; for felony vehicle stops."

The weapons must be kept in a hard case in the trunk of a squad car unless
one of the situations above arises. The rifles cannot be displayed for
intimidation purposes. They cannot be modified to allow automatic fire and
must be inspected annually by the department armorer. Officers must also
qualify in the shooting range each year.

Perhaps most significant, officers must purchase the rifles and equipment
themselves. AR-15s cost $1,100; the hard case runs about $100; and
ammunition goes for $250 a box, though rounds used on duty are provided by
the department.

"$1,100 wasn't really in the budget," said Jacwin, who is 48 and three years
from retirement, "but my wife said if it's going to make you safer and
better prepared, then do it."

The rifle's .223 caliber bullets are like a ".22-caliber on steroids," said
training officer Paul Grata. They are referred to as soft point rounds,
meaning they expand quickly on impact. "It'll stop after penetrating 11
inches," Grata explained.

That's meant to counter one of the criticisms of assault rifles. Critics say
the bullets travel at such velocity they pose a threat to bystanders if they
sail through an intended target.

Advocates say assault rifles offer several advantages. With a range of 300
yards, they are vastly better than the standard Glock handgun officers
carry, which have a range of 25 to 50 yards.

Rifles are more accurate, police say, than Remington pump-action shotguns
(normal range of 50 to 75 yards) the department makes available. A shotgun
holds five rounds, while each officer can carry two 20-round magazines for
the assault rifle.

* * *

In adding assault rifles, the St. Petersburg Police Department has joined a
legion of other agencies nationwide, from Erie, Pa., to Portland, Ore.
Precise figures are not maintained, but the practice seems to be growing.

"Without a doubt, there are thousands and thousands of departments carrying
patrol rifles at this point," said Emanuel Kapelsohn, vice president of the
International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors.

Kapelsohn resists calling them "assault" rifles, saying the word gives a
negative connotation. But whatever they are called, the rifles have drawn
opposition, nationally and locally.

"Our cities are not combat zones, but when you arm the police with assault
rifles, you run the risk of turning them into combat zones," said Tom Diaz,
senior policy analyst at the Violence Policy Center in Washington, D.C. "I
doubt there very many communities outside Iraq where you need that kind of
firepower."

Diaz, author of Making a Killing: The Business of Guns in America,
said much of the trend has to do with marketing. In the 1980s, agencies felt
compelled to upgrade standard revolvers with semiautomatic pistols, he said,
after one manufacturer, Beretta, landed a high-profile contract with the
military. In the 1990s, there was another movement to higher caliber
bullets.

"We call it a spiral of lethality," Diaz said. "It sounds very simple: The
bad guys have these guns, we need them, too," Diaz said. "It's not really
that simple."

It's difficult to accurately gauge how many assault rifles police here
encounter. From 2001 to June 2002, police say they recovered 34 such
firearms, mostly AK-47s.

Current statistics were not available.

Victoria Schaus, co-chairwoman of the Civilian Police Review Committee,
which looks into citizen complaints against officers, thinks more focus
should be placed on getting assault rifles out of the hands of criminals,
not engaging in an arms race.

"I want the officers to be safe," she said, "but it appalls me that this is
what we've come to. It's very sad and frightening."

Chief Harmon said the reality is that such efforts, while worthwhile, will
never be fully successful. "So we have to keep up with what's going on with
the world."

--Alex Leary can be reached at (727) 893-8472 or leary@sptimes.com.
 
and ammunition goes for $250 a box, though rounds used on duty are provided by the department.

Just what kind of ammo are they using? Gold plated depleted uranium?

I wonder how long it will be before BG's start using a screwdriver to punch out trunk locks of unoccupied squad cars to steal the AR's in the trunk?
 
About the same time they start punching in windows to grab the between-seats shotgun.

What is this fascination with "high-powered" guns? You'd think they ran on batteries. These "high powered" guns must use 9-volts instead of the standard AAAs.
 
Kapelsohn resists calling them "assault" rifles, saying the word gives a
negative connotation.

Gee, 'ya think? Welcome to our world, Mr. Kapelsohn. Maybe if you taught the cops you train the proper terminology you wouldn't be fighting against this perception now. How many times have we seen a cop get in front of a news crew or reporter and whine about the criminals with their "assault rifles".

Or are they only politically correct "patrol rifles" when the cops have them, but still "assault rifles" when citizens have them?
 
$250 a case?
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Shaggy hit the nail on the head... we can't let these bozos win the war of words - we must call these idiotic reporters on the use of the phrases "assault rifles" and "assault weapons" each and every time, and demand a precise definition, to turn back the tide of general acceptance of the use of these terms to described self-loading rifles with ergonomic features, aka homeland defense rifles.
 
heh.. i just had a picture of a 350lb cop barely fitting into his uniform.. CHARGING a perp with the bayonet mounted on his AR-15. :D

And then, finishing him off with a smack to the head with his folding stock and pistol grip..
 
Its disturbing when us normal peasants own em but perfectly OK for law enforcement.?????? This mentality is what will eventually destroy America. :mad:
 
16 hours of training? I would double that. I am positively against individual officers buying AR-15s. IF they are needed, the agency should buy them and equip every prowl car with them. If the police are outrun by stolen cars with consistency, would officers be authorized to buy their own hot rod Mustangs and Corvettes? I guess you could just buy Chrysler 300s with Hemis and install nitrous oxide.
 
Sir William beat me to it.

16 hours of training? I wonder how often requalifications will be. Duck if you hear shots and bullets flying anywhere in St Petersberg. You never know where they might come down.

I am not against them getting their own rifles at all, but I would double the training hours too. Additionally I would flag them at regular intervals - say every two or three months - and have them shoot an impromptu combat-style drill in such a way that the rifle would be taken out of the patrol car as it would be in an incident. No other prep allowed. A fail means no further rifle carry without an additional few hours training and a requalification.
 
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