Fiocchi 9mm Ammo

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BikerRN

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Howdy all,

Being as decent 9mm ammo is getting hard to find again, and my stock of 9BPLE is dwindling, as well as SWMBO not liking the +P+ or +P stuff I'm considering Fiocchi 124 Grain JHP's for defensive use.

The reason I'm considering it is, it's in stock and I can get some. I'm concerned about it being too over-penetrative given that it's the Hornaday XTP Bullet, which stands for Extra Penetrating IIRC. Also, I can get it in 50 round boxes at a price I can afford.

From my searching the web it seems this is a good consistant ammo and it tends to run a little "hotter" than other standard pressure loads. Am I wrong in my thinking, and would I be better served by using another round due to it being too over-penetrative in bipedal aggressors?

I've always preferred the +P+ stuff in my 9mm, but a friend is talking me out of that and into the 124 Grain bullet, since it would serve SWMBO well. If it runs as "hot" as NATO ammo we are both OK with that.

I called an ammo supplier and he wanted $30/50 for the 9BPLE, which I considered Highway Robbery. I'd pay $20/50 for it, and have the remainder of my stash that I bought at $17/50. I don't mind somebody making a profit, but I have a hard time believing the price of ammunition has gone up that much in two years.

Thank you for your help in this matter and I eagerly await your replies. I have to hurry though, as I don't know how long this ammo will be available. I'd love to load DPX in my guns, but it's too exspensive to shoot, and I train with what I carry. Also, I prefer 50 round boxes. There is something sacreligious to me about 20 round boxes.

Biker
 
most European 9mm is slightly hotter than ours. In general Fiocchi is some great ammo. I use it a lot in both 9mm and .32 range ammo. Just bought 1500 more rounds last week.

I would also not EVER recommend +P+ as there is no SAAMI regulation like there is with +P. Anyone can overload a 9mm to any point they want and call it +P+ so it is somewhere between a little more than +P to blow a cheap gun up in your face.
 
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Sir, I can’t speak about the Fiocchi 9 M/M ammo but I have shot several hundred rounds of their 125 Gr. 38 special and it was as accurate as I was, it shot dead on with my 2” Taurus. So far I have shot 50 rounds of their 125 Gr .357 JSP ammo, it also was spot on but the felt recoil was stout, not bad but stout in my 2’. I would certainly purchase either of these again and would not hesitate to carry the .357 ammo for defense.
 
I'm a Fiocchi fan. It is, in my experience, loaded a bit hotter than the run of the mill U.S. ammo and is also very accurate.
 
I'm a Fiocchi fan
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Me too.

I really like the fact that their FMJ stuff is hotter than normal.....especially in 45ACP....also the 9mm ammo. Heck, it even looks good, I would take all the Fiocchi ammo I could get.
 
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I wouldn't hesitate to use the fiocchi. Been using it (+P+):rolleyes: for years.
 
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I like Fiocchi, use the .40 155 grain XTPs for concealed Carry, and used to their 230 grain .45's.

The XTP is a little old, but still a decent design.
 
The last time I used Fiocchi 9mm, it was in a Taurus PT-99. The locking block shattered and damaged the frame. it was standard copper jacketed ball ammo - bought it at the range I was shooting at, so i know it wasn't +P or anything like that. Oh, I forgot, I did finish off the box of ammo in my Smith 659 which I purchased to replace the broken PT-99, with no problem.

FWIW, I don't believe there was anything wrong with the ammo, just with the gun.
 
bought it at the range I was shooting at, so i know it wasn't +P
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The standard Fiocchi 9mm is about the same as NATO ballistics, which means hotter than normal, but certainly should not damage the gun.
 
I like Fiocchi. I have used their 124 FMJ in my CZ 75b and find it very accurate. Wish I could find some more.

I though XTP stood for eXtreme Terminal Performance.
 
I though XTP stood for eXtreme Terminal Performance.
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It does, and I was corrected on that misbelief of mine in another forum. Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. I have learned, from sources I trust, that the Fiocchi 124 Grain XTP is a good load and will get the job done if I do my part, but that getting the job done part is true of any round.

The reason I posted this was because I had no expirience with Fiochhi and was unsure of their quality. I have since learned that Springfield, MO Police Department issued Fiochhi to their officers as a duty load. That made me sit up and take notice. It's not too many departments that will issue a proven "failure". While they may not offer the "latest and greatest" most have a tendency to want to issue something that is reliable and of quality.

We could argue that one should go with the "best" ammunition one can afford, and with a caveat I agree with that. The caveat being, that I can afford to train with it as well. I train with what I carry. Luckily I don't carry 'ball ammo. It does me no good to have "the latest and greatest" if I can't afford it, or lay in enough to train with for a year.

Biker
 
Just a note, Streicher's has your Federal 9BPLE for $19/50 rounds. As far as Fiocchi goes, I've had good luck with it every time I've ever used it, but it's always been inexpensive FMJ's for range ammo. I've never tried any of their JHP loadings.
 
FWIW, I'm a Fiocchi fan too, and get a batch of their FMJ stuff for range use every now and then. Still, just today I witnessed a fellow competitor get one FTF with his Walther P99 using Fiocchi. Properly dented primer and all.
 
most European 9mm is slightly hotter than ours. In general Fiocchi is some great ammo
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Isn't Fiocchi now made in the US at their AR plant? I would imagine, if they are loading Hornady bullets, that they're loading them here
 
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most European 9mm is slightly hotter than ours. In general Fiocchi is some great ammo

Isn't Fiocchi now made in the US at their AR plant? I would imagine, if they are loading Hornady bullets, that they're loading them here
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I believe Fiocchi still loads their ammunition to CIP rather than SAAMI spec. In the case of 9mm, CIP maximum pressure is slightly higher than SAAMI standard pressure but not as high as SAAMI +P. CIP does not recognize +P in any caliber.
 
Thanks again all.

I am not loading the +P+ in my 9mm because the wife, who is new to shooting, does not like the +P+ load. I went and bought her a gun that she likes and is willing to shoot, in a caliber she likes. I can tolerate the caliber and will carry the exact same gun as my off duty gun. I also will carry a smaller version of that gun as a BUG.

My reasoning is, I want her to be able to use what I carry in case she isn't carrying that day. If she is used to a Glock 19 with a standard pressure load, then I will carry a Glock 19 with a standard pressure load. I'll also carry the Glock 26 since I carry two guns off duty.

That way we have magazine and ammo capatability between the two of us. She won't have to wonder if the magazine she's putting in her gun, if I give her one of my magazines is that, "Hot as snot blisterin' load" or standard pressure. She will also be able to take whichever of the two guns I carry and be able to use it, since it's the exact same thing as she has.

If she wasn't carrying I'd pack my P35 and be done with it. I'm happy that she has decided to learn to shoot and may carry at times. If this encourages her, so be it. Since I have more training and expirience it is easier for me to adapt to her than have her adapt to me. If she decides she likes shooting and wants to explore different platforms then I may go to carrying something else, but for right now this set-up works for us.

It's an ever evolving process IMO. This is just part of that evolution.

Biker
 
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