Finish quality of NEW Smith & Wesson revolvers

MJFlores

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I've been seeking another S&W 629 .44 magnum in stainless steel for a while now. You see, when I was 16 years old I saved all summer to buy one, and when the day came my Dad brought me so he could buy it (I was too young at the time). I had it for about 10 years and foolishly sold it. I've missed it ever since! So, now I'm 43 and have been looking for a year or so and finally held one tonight. It felt beautiful but boy it sure didn't look it. I actually had to ask if it really was a new firearm. The stainless finish was covered with swirl marks and clearly hadn't been polished yet. I was REALLY let down. Has anyone else seen this in new S&W revolvers? Such a shame...they had two and both looked like someone gave em a rub down with sand covered coarse steel wool. You'd expect much better finishing for $810.
 
In my opinion, the most beautiful finish ever put on a gun was the original Colt Python blue. After that came S&W blue and stainless. Either of those was a joy to behold.
By comparison, todays finishes are crap. Even the custom shop guns don't look as good as an original 29 or 66. Overjoyed I still have mine.
 
I feel your pain

Last year I bought a Model 640-3 (stainless Centennial .357). This gun was new old stock. It sat in the dealer's safe for a while. It was made in 2009. I didn't pay much attention to the finish at the store. When I got it home I found that it had a factory "matte stainless" finish that even Mother's mag polish couldn't fix.

I now have a 640 with polished swirl marks. I don't like the looks of it. However, I will keep it because all-stainless Centennials are hard to find around here. Most are Airweights. Besides, I made an adjustment to the IL. Have to keep it now.

In my opinion, "matte" is another term for "we were too cheap to finish the gun".
 
Yeah, to me there are two finishes you can do to Stainless Steel. Polished which should be bright and free from scratches and swirl marks, and Matte which would be polished and then bead blasted to take the shine down. The two "brand new" S&W pistols I held yesterday were neither...they were unfinished and just terrible looking. Either S&W thinks they can get away with selling things like that because the market for firearms is currently sky high, or they no longer care about creating a quality firearm. I would have dropped the $800 yesterday on the one I held but couldn't with a finish like that. I'm sort of depressed over it. It's a real shame.
 
Jesus, we must be looking at different guns. The new S&Ws I see are beautiful. Granted they do not make as many with the glossy blued finish any more, but that can still be had with the 44 Model 29.

Oh well, takes all kinds. I will reiterate. I think that the new production S&Ws look fine. More than fine.
 
I'm truly amazed at how many people have posts starting with:

"I just bought a xyz gun and when I got it home I noticed it looked bad/didn't work/was missing"...
Doesn't anyone look over the weapon before they say "Yep I'll take it..."

I've gone through multiple guns getting one I wanted. If the LGS didn't like it or have more to show me they didn't get my sale.

I always do a thorough inspection before accepting a gun to purchase.
 
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Rogervzv, have you looked at guns that have recently been produced? Often times revolvers can sit a while in a store. The guy working the counter was up font about it when I mentioned all the swirls...he said he gets a lot of bad comments and personally felt S&W was trying to keep up with demand. I don't know. The ones I just saw that just arrived in were terrible.

JGLSprings...???? Your comment didn't make sense. Did you read the post? Nobody bought anything.
 
I held a new blued GP100 side by side with a new S&W 27 a couple hours ago. The bluing on the Smith was so far and away better than the Ruger I could hardly believe my eyes. It really was stunning.
 
New Gun Fever

jglsprings I'm truly amazed at how many people have post starting with:

"I just bought a xyz gun and when I got it home I noticed it looked bad/didn't work/was missing"...


Doesn't anyone look over the weapon before they say "Yep I'll take it..."

I've gone through multiple guns getting one I wanted. If the LGS didn't like it or have more to show me they didn't get my sale.

I always do a thorough inspection before accepting a gun to purchase.

So I didn't look it over to your satisfaction. I got a case of new gun fever and was blinded by the light. Smith finishes these days aren't as good. In fact, some of them can't be called "finished". No polish at all. Period.

If your guns are all perfect, then, good for you!
 
gunstores are just like jewelry stores. they control the lighting over the display cases with lightbulbs that are best at blending/hiding flaws.

Kinda like why 40 year old worn out floozies like bars with only one 20 watt light inside.
 
HAHA...isn't that the truth. For me anyway, when you sell a car or truck it's because it ready to go...you're done with it. Often times, with firearms you're just wanting money for something else and cash in. Not all the times but sometimes. Those are the ones we regret, unless the firearm just wasn't anything special to us. When I bought my first 629, I paid $360 for it. When I traded it in toward a Sig in .40 cal, I got $350 ...cant argue with that really. I didnlt realize at the time that it was worth a lot more to me than a lousy 350 dollars. Now to replace it, you'll have to drop 800+ and end up with a gun that is nowhere as nice looking due to the finish quality. Now, it may function the same...could even be better but when you hold one now and examine it's lines and contours...it's just metal...and not something beautiful. I haven't examined any blued Smiths so they could still have a great finish on them, I just don't know. That could be the direction to go these days.
 
New S&W's with the lock hole in the side are a turnoff to me. Forget about the finish. Also after reading they lock up when they shouldn't is also a turnoff also. I would rather have one of the older models without the lock that is in good shape. Can't tell if the lockup problem is a myth but why take a chance when you really need a gun???
J
 
FWIW I recently purchased a new Smith revolver. Granted it was a Performance Center model and so you'd expect the finish to be excellent and in fact it was.
Once I got it home though, while handling the gun I realized that the front site was so loose that I could move it and then remove it with my fingers. Not impressive at all.
It went back and they made good on it but it was pretty dismaying.
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I posted a thread about this a couple years ago, S&W's idea of a brushed finish on their revolvers is pathetic. Uneven swirl marks throughout the gun with no rhyme or reason. Don't get me wrong, I love S&W revolvers, but for an $800 plus gun I expect better. The first thing I do with any new S&W is spend a few hours with a rag and some mothers mag polish.

I would have dropped the $800 yesterday on the one I held but couldn't with a finish like that. I'm sort of depressed over it. It's a real shame.

They polish out pretty easily, don't let it stop you from buying one.
 
The new S&W guns aren't as nice as the older ones, The last 4 I bought all had something wrong with them. I think that the fact that they have super equipment for machining etc now makes them sloppy in the QC dept. They should be better in every way than the older guns but they are not.
625 JM, bad extractor, rear of the bbl not true
686 Plus, out of time
642, burr in the forcing cone
17, plates lead on the cylinder, hard trigger

It's not only S&W, sent back a Citori, an SR 1911 Commander(twice), repaired a new Kimber myself. They just ain't what they used to be when humans had a hand in building them. It seems that now they just assemble the parts, some work some don't. They will try to repair it if you send it back.
 
floydster said:
You guys are all hung up on looks--it's the personallity that counts.

Even that's no good on some of them.

My uncle brought his brand new Classic model 29, a -8 or -10 or something (had a lock, too), to Thanksgiving last fall. The trigger on it was pretty surprisingly bad - kind of a hinky weight to it, and some grittiness near the end of the DA pull. More to the topic at hand, even the blued finish seemed more low-effort than the S&W high polish blue of yore.

He also had a newer 66 and 586 and they were similarly disappointing.

(To be fair, the 586 and 29 shot accurately. I didn't get a chance to shoot the 66 since the cylinder bound up in the frame. :confused: He's sending it back for warranty work.)

My take is, with the jillions of nice, easily available vintage Smiths available, go for the old. :)
 
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