Was only able to shoot 4 mags through it but better than none at all, it is a mil-spec and came without the ILS which I like a lot. Anyways, the extractor seems a tiny bit loose inside the slide BUT extractor does hold a shell in place when I shake the slide and rotate the slide upside down and what not. Ejection was as consistent as my ar every shot I fired, even shot 3 rounds with round loaded and magazine removed after loading round, still the same ejection. So should I leave the extractor alone and just shoot it? I talked to a gun tech at Brownell's today over the phone and the guy (Tim I think his name was) said that some 1911's like an extractor on the tighter side and some on looser side-he said loosy goosy, but I wouldn't say that...it is a little bit loosy goosy, but seems to be working great thus far. I did notice that there is a little gap when a round is in the chamber-gap between rim of round and breech face, very small but there, he also said this was normal, his advice was after test firing if it works don't mess with it. What do yalls experienced folk think?
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Finally shot brand new Stainless Springer 1911
- Thread starter Gunslick
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Could someone please give me some insight on the questions that I asked. I do all my own gunsmithing so this is going to be something I will be taking care of my self, the 1911 that is, at what ever point it needs servicing I will learn it and correct any issues, did I chose a good 1911?
The old school way of checking an extractor tension is to take slide off gun - put a loaded cartridge under the hook on extractor....shake slide lightly / turn it on side & upside down in your hand while shaking it....if cartridge does not come loose, it's OK.
Some local gunsmith may have a jig they can use to check it ...but old school works. After you have 1,000 Rds or so thru it check it again... / if you have some malfunctions, it might need a little more tension.
Good gun ???....is relative.../ ..in my view, Springfield makes a serviceable gun & in general they're a pretty good gun for the money. Are they a Wilson Combat or an Ed Brown...no, probably not...but take care of it....keep it clean & properly lubed and it should last for many thousands of rounds....in my view.
Assuming you know how, I would detail strip it to a bare frame ....clean, inspect and lube it ....in a new gun, I will follow mfg's recommendation on break in period first....but I want to get inside the gun after a few hundred rounds/ and during that break in period, I want it well lubed ....but see what Springfield recommends & maybe compare to what Wilson says on their website ( under FAQ's on handguns).
Some local gunsmith may have a jig they can use to check it ...but old school works. After you have 1,000 Rds or so thru it check it again... / if you have some malfunctions, it might need a little more tension.
Good gun ???....is relative.../ ..in my view, Springfield makes a serviceable gun & in general they're a pretty good gun for the money. Are they a Wilson Combat or an Ed Brown...no, probably not...but take care of it....keep it clean & properly lubed and it should last for many thousands of rounds....in my view.
Assuming you know how, I would detail strip it to a bare frame ....clean, inspect and lube it ....in a new gun, I will follow mfg's recommendation on break in period first....but I want to get inside the gun after a few hundred rounds/ and during that break in period, I want it well lubed ....but see what Springfield recommends & maybe compare to what Wilson says on their website ( under FAQ's on handguns).
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Could someone please give me some insight on the questions that I asked.
I see one question and last I looked I answered it.
Gunslick, the tech at Brownells gave you good information. Some 1911 type pistols run just fine with extractors that seem a bit loose. My former duty pistol is that way. This issue was highlighted for me in a 1911 training class put on by a pretty well known trainer and gunsmith. During the classroom portion of the class the trainer/gunsmith inspected my pistol and insisted that the extractor in my Series '80 duty Colt was too loose. I foolishly allowed him to adjust it as he thought proper. When live fire resumed, I could not get through a magazine without multiple malfunctions. This with a gun that had not malfunctioned in the years that I had carried, trained, qualified with it, and maintained myself. Fortunately, I had a spare factory Colt extractor with me that returned my gun to 100% reliability. Afterwards, the instructor/gunsmith told me that even if my gun had not malfunctioned before, it would have sometime in future with the loose extractor. Yea sure. That was a few years ago and it hasn't malfunctioned yet with the loose factory extractor.
As to the gap between rim of round and breech face. That is proper. The extractor is not designed to hold the round tightly to the breech face. If it did, there would be no room for the rim of the round to move at an angle up the breech face as is required for the gun to function at all. In short, if it works reliably don't mess with it.
I know of no reason your Springfield would not be considered a good choice in a basic 1911 type pistol. I was an LE armorer for years and maintained my and other officers pistols, to include the 1911 type, rifles and shotguns. I hope my response provides the insight you requested.
As to the gap between rim of round and breech face. That is proper. The extractor is not designed to hold the round tightly to the breech face. If it did, there would be no room for the rim of the round to move at an angle up the breech face as is required for the gun to function at all. In short, if it works reliably don't mess with it.
I know of no reason your Springfield would not be considered a good choice in a basic 1911 type pistol. I was an LE armorer for years and maintained my and other officers pistols, to include the 1911 type, rifles and shotguns. I hope my response provides the insight you requested.
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Okay, my insight:Gunslick said:Could someone please give me some insight on the questions that I asked. I do all my own gunsmithing so this is going to be something I will be taking care of my self, the 1911 that is, at what ever point it needs servicing I will learn it and correct any issues, did I chose a good 1911?
1. Yes, you bought a decent 1911.
2.No, you should not muck around with the extractor.
However, I saw your other thread, so I know my answer is too late to prevent you from "fixing" something that wasn't broken.