figures from South Africa

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Dre_sa

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hey guys!
i live in south africa, and while this country is beautiful, its is rather dangerous.
this evening, on a weekly investigative journalism tv show, 'official' statistics on murder were broadcast. this is what they said;
in the past 10 years, 200 000 south africans were murdered.
thats just murder, excluding death by road accident (of which there are many) or any other type of accident.
my father (born and raised in NJ) quoted some statistics regarding the vietman conflict. he said that it lasted 8 years and 55000 americans lost their lives. please correct me if i am wrong.
i was astounded by the correlation between the two statistics. i have known for some time that this country is exceptionally dangerous, but not more so than a war zone!

thanks for listening to my rant guys!
i'll be somewhere in the states next year, i am most definately moving, preferably to somewhere like florida.
 
You forget that in Vietnam there were also vietnamese casualties running in the millions.

But yes, the US is better.

Have you considered the Free State Project?
 
@ Dre SA

I'm surprised that anybody got statistics at all, considering that the SA government has been reluctant to publish anything that could hurt tourism and show the world how crime has rocketed since 1994.

One thing they can't hide is hospital statistics. Pre 1994 the hospital at which I trained was getting a small number of gunshot victims, perhaps 50 a year. In the late 1990s that figure was 150 a month!!

In 1999 the Johannesburg General Hospital saw more than 16,000 adult trauma patients. Here is the breakdown:

1) 7,892 were due to accidents.
2) 4,440 were due to blunt force assaults.
3) 2,214 were due to stabbings or penetrating assaults with edged or pointed weapons.
4) 1,755 were due to gunshots.

Thats just the ones who survived long enough and who came to my hospital. I don't have statistics for those who went to other hospitals (like Baragwanath) and I don't know how many were dead at the scene.

So yes, SA is probably right up there in the top three (if not the top spot) in terms of countries with peace-time violence related traumas. That's why trauma doctors from all over the world go down there for experience.
 
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