Fierce looking Shotgun

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Check out this link. Its a 12 gauge. Dont know who the shooter is but his shotgun looks quite menacing.
 

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Im glad they are now importing them again. I wish I would have bought one in 2004 when I saw one for $250 new in box. Getting one soon though.
 
a .410 isn't much of a shot gun

But with the light recoil in a high capacity, semi-auto platform it is a very viable HD weapon.

I think 28 gauge would be the perfect mix between quick follow up shots, higher capacity, and punch power.
 
The uniform doesn't look all to professional... And I don't think he's to ready to touch off a real shot, even a small gauge gas powered shotty shouldn't be rested against the bicep... Looks like a backyard "wanna-be" pic to me. But that's a real Saiga - kewl. :cool:
 
Quote I'd also add that the gun appears to have a 10 round mag
that would be a no-no to us lowly civilians


Could you explain which law exactly disallows the 10 round shotgun magazine.

If you meant on a shotgun made of 11 or more contendable 922 imported parts I would agree. But the one in the picture is converted to less than 11 parts. It has most likely been reduced from a standard 13 parts to 9 parts with out counting in the use of an American made magazine that reduces it further to 6 parts. This is apparent because of the non-saiga buttstock, pistol grip conversion that usually involves a U.S.A. made trigger group, and you can factor in that if it were a 10 round magazine there is no factory 10 rounders but there may be U.S.A made ones. It would be compliant in that aspect.

So I am curious how exactly it is a no no.
 
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I was partially mistaken.

Your right, on 922r compliance.



...however

ATF gets pissed at 10 round semi-auto 12 guage "in general".


i.e. street sweeper, striker 12 (became destructive devices)


If they got pissed enough, they might cut off saiga 12 for importation, since it wouldn't be a "sporting purpose". Or even force NFA registration.


History repeats itself ya know.
 
This subject has been beat to death at http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=idx

I personally called RAA the new importers last year and was told that as long as they dont import the 8 round russian mags the ATF promised to let them continue importing the Saiga shotguns. There is quite a few Team Saiga shotgun meetings that have members using the 8 round shotgun mags and soon many 10 round mags are about to circulate.
The real threat might be if someone developes drums for these shotguns.
With as many people that illegally extend their Benelli tube mags, I dont see why the ATF would care about Saiga 8 or 10 round mags on a 922 compliant gun. Hopefully, a Destructive Device ruling wont ever be declared on the Saiga shotguns.
 
um yea and so what about bein a democrat. and so what if i think its ugly. when i say im old fashioned, i mean i want something that looks like an 870. when i say not practical i mean what in the hell are u using it for?? obviously ur lookin at that gun u are thinking military so u are also thinking self defense. 10 rounds??? are u that bad of a shot???? which god damn army is coming after u??? better get 3 or 4 of those and dont stop there put a couple howitzers on ur front lawn and an m1 abrams in ur driveway. o and your going to need air support! call mcdonnell douglas and order an f/a-18 hornet. i mean jesus ****ing christ what are u so afraid of???????? ill bet if u didnt have a gun in your house u would be so scared u wouldnt be able to sleep or even see straight. you'd be lookin out ur window with a flashlight and everything. so who are the creampuffs now?
 
trying to discourage the ownership of a black-semiauto shotgun that would scare the creampuffs out of most liberal democrats.
Im just disgusted. I would look at it different if their wasnt a stacked bias of liberal charm with a knife wanting to backstab a gunowner that wants something most liberals would sell thair firstborn so that gunowners couldnt have. Doesnt sound like your old fashion, sounds like your riding the political tide that many in your state of IL do as lemmings do (off a cliff).
regular people dont need guns just us important law enforcement guys do, voting for a democrat that is anti-gun is good for the country, and no one needs a scary black gun like that one- its too likely to outgun us law enforcement guys.
You got all that vitriol from a simple statement about the aesthetics and utility of the weapon
why the hell would u want it?? its not too practical. its just big and ugly sorry im old fashioned

What is truly disgusting is the way some people will twist the words of a poster, or simply insert their own and attribute it to the poster, to fit their own agenda

Here's a hint
It doesn't work when done in the same thread because we can actually see the words for ourselves

PS
I also think the gun looks unwieldy and butt ugly and I think felons should be allowed to own firearms,
 
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