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Federal primer virgin!
- Thread starter Butzbach
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There's no difference in loading data.
Assuming it's loaded with small pistol primers it will be indistinguishable from CCI primers other than Federal is regarded as being a little more sensitive and easier to ignite. Because of this Federal is preferred for revolvers with lightened mainsprings.
Assuming it's loaded with small pistol primers it will be indistinguishable from CCI primers other than Federal is regarded as being a little more sensitive and easier to ignite. Because of this Federal is preferred for revolvers with lightened mainsprings.
Thanks for the intel!There's no difference in loading data.
Assuming it's loaded with small pistol primers it will be indistinguishable from CCI primers other than Federal is regarded as being a little more sensitive and easier to ignite. Because of this Federal is preferred for revolvers with lightened mainsprings.
Shotgun Slim
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The smart reloader never changes a component without reducing the load and working up while watching pressure signs. If your load with CCI primers is near max would you not want to know that Federal primers may give you too much pressure? "There's no difference in load data" is a bold statement that you would do well to ignore.
kilotanker22
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I have recently switched from CCI to Federal primers for all pistol cartridges. For no other reason than the only pistol primers that can be had local to me are Federal these days. I have found tighter velocity spreads in 9mm, 10mm, and 40 S&W when using the Federal primers. Maybe I am just lucky, but I very much like the Federal primers I have been using.
redDog81
every primer brand is a little different, from the exact compound mixture, to the amount of compound. It is much? I don't thing so. In this video a company tested 9mm with CCI small pistol, small pistol magnum, and small rifle and found only small differences in pressure. But its generally wise to work the load back up just to double check.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVRGsoOr6k
every primer brand is a little different, from the exact compound mixture, to the amount of compound. It is much? I don't thing so. In this video a company tested 9mm with CCI small pistol, small pistol magnum, and small rifle and found only small differences in pressure. But its generally wise to work the load back up just to double check.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVRGsoOr6k
With small pistol primers the load data is the same and when using them in .38 Special the results will be indistinguishable. The linked video compares SP, SPM and SR primers and comes to the same conclusion…. As mentioned in the video, the hardness of the primer cup is the biggest difference.
FWIW CCI and Federal primers are made by the same company. He can work up various loads but with .38 Special there is no way the results will have any meaningful change from one small pistol primer to another.
FWIW CCI and Federal primers are made by the same company. He can work up various loads but with .38 Special there is no way the results will have any meaningful change from one small pistol primer to another.
reynolds357
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I would venture that more commercial data was developed with Federal Primers than CCI. Small pistol, in my opinion, does not matter what brand you shoot. Datai s close enough to the same. If you are running right on the ragged edge, might be enough difference to matter, but practically, it does not.Folks,
I have some .38 Special primed brass headed my way. It is primed with federal primers. I have only ever used CCI primers. Any advice?
Anyone have a source of loading data for federal primers?
Let me know.
Jim Watson
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FWIW CCI and Federal primers are made by the same company.
Well, yes, Vista has acquired a lot of the old line companies, now including Remington ammunition.
But that does not mean the primers are the same product. The chemistry is different.
Jim is right. These companies have a common owner, but they remain physically independent and make the products they developed independently of one another. Just because GM owns Cadillac and GMC doesn't mean the vehicles are identical. Same thing here. In this case, Federal is in Anoka, Minnesota, while CCI is in Lewiston, Idaho, almost 1400 miles apart by road; a 21-hour drive.
With medium powder charges for plinking, I recommend testing 2 different loads, your first time out with the Federal primers. I'm not posting about hot, or anything similar to +P loads, here.
1. Same charge as you had with CCI primers.
2. Reduced by .2 to .3 grains. (That's reduced by tenths and not whole grains.)
My guess is accuracy will be mighty close between the two.
1. Same charge as you had with CCI primers.
2. Reduced by .2 to .3 grains. (That's reduced by tenths and not whole grains.)
My guess is accuracy will be mighty close between the two.
Jim Watson
New member
With MY 9mm load, there was NO difference in velocity from 6 out of 7 primers on hand.
Remington 1 1/2 was a LITTLE faster than even magnum and rifle.
Remington 1 1/2 was a LITTLE faster than even magnum and rifle.