FAS on the M1911A1

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From the Federation of American Scientists, and their Military Analysis Network.

M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol


The M1911A1 .45 cal. pistol was the standard personal defense weapon carried by officers of all services during World War I, World Was II, and Korea. It has a rich military heritage, was very reliable, and the weapon of choice for use in close quarters. The M1911A1 pistol has been replaced by the more modern M9 9mm pistol. The M1911A1 had been the standard handgun issued to Marines for many decades. Selected weapons were modified in the 1980s to meet the requirements of the MEU(SOC) in lieu of arming them with the M9 9mm pistol.

The .45 caliber semiautomatic pistol M1911A1 is a recoil-operated hand weapon. It is a magazine-fed semiautomatic weapon, which fires one round each time the trigger is squeezed once the hammer is cocked by prior action of the slide or thumb. This design is referred to as "single action only." The thumb safety may only be activated once the pistol is cocked. The hammer remains in the fully cocked position once the safety is activated. (Note: More modern pistol designs of the "double action" type will allow the hammer to move forward to an uncocked position when the thumb safety is activated.)

The M1911A1 was widely respected for its reliability and lethality. However, its single action/cocked and locked design required the user to be very familiar and well-trained to allow carrying the pistol in the "ready-to-fire" mode. Consequently, M1911A1s were often prescribed to be carried without a round in the chamber. Even with this restriction on the user, numerous unintentional discharges were documented yearly.

Although commercial pistols were purchased and issued to General Officers, some standard Army issue pistols were specially modified for use by General Officers, including the Pistol, Cal. .45, Semi-automatic, M1911A1, General Officer's.


Primary function: Semiautomatic pistol
Length: 8.625 inches (21.91 centimeters)
Length of barrel: 5.03 inches (12.78 centimeters)
Weight:
Magazine empty: 2.5 pounds (1.14 kg)
Magazine loaded: 3.0 pounds (1.36 kg)
Bore diameter: .45 caliber
Maximum effective range: 82.02 feet (25 meters)
Muzzle velocity: 830 feet (253 meters) per second
Magazine capacity: 7 rounds
Unit Replacement Cost: $242


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While there's a lot of good info on the FAS site, a lot of their info is kind of (necessarily) dumbed down to layman's terms. What do you all think of this analysis of the M1911? Opinions? Counterpoints?
 
Sounds pretty straight forward and accurate to me. Some of the "cock and lock" guys may argue that they don't have accidental discharges, but the fact is that others do, and that military personnel rarely have the degree of weapons training that dedicated civilians can obtain when they want to pay for it.

Jim
 
The M1911A1 was widely respected for its reliability and lethality. However, its single action/cocked and locked design required the user to be very familiar and well-trained to allow carrying the pistol in the "ready-to-fire" mode. Consequently, M1911A1s were often prescribed to be carried without a round in the chamber. Even with this restriction on the user, numerous unintentional discharges were documented yearly.



That article is worded to sound like the military hasn't had any "unintentional discharges" with the M9.:rolleyes: There wouldn't be any "unintentional discharges" if those with firearms would always obey the four rules of gun safety.
 
There wouldn't be any "unintentional discharges" if those with firearms would always obey the four rules of gun safety.

And knew what they were doing, like that NG sergeant that shot himself in the hindquarters after completing his watch as an airport security troop in San Francisco.

Makes you feel reeeeal safe, doesn't it?
 
The only glaring innacuracy I picked up was "1911A1... used in WWI, WWII..." The Model of 1911A1 came about in 1927 and was a modification of the Model of 1911, which was the one that was standard issue in WWI.

The part about the accidental discharge I took as their way of saying snuffies ain't smart, which is a pretty good assessment. I was one, remember!

Other than that, great. I think these guys are on our side!
 
I don't think there is anyone who would argue that the 1911 is a pistol that morons can safely carry. The vast, vast majority of cops and soldiers are not gun guys, and are better served by a more idiot-resistant design. Like the saying goes, though: try to idiot-proof the world and they just come up with a better idiot.
 
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