Fake E-Mail Raises Concerns Among Gun Owners

Oatka

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I saw a couple of posts on this but don't know if it was disproved to this degree.

Fake E-Mail Raises Concerns Among Gun Owners
By TARA COPP
Scripps Howard News Service

WASHINGTON -- A fake e-mail saying that Congress may require citizens to list all the guns they own on their tax forms has prompted hundreds of worried citizens to contact Capitol Hill.

There are handgun registration bills currently filed in both the House and Senate, but none would require an American to list their guns on tax forms. And the unpopular bills have either little or no support.

The real legislation, sponsored by Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., would require all handguns, including those currently in private possession, to be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Even Reed's office concedes the legislation is not going anywhere soon.
"Our thinking is nothing is going to happen on it in this Congress. We'd even be surprised if we got action on it in the next Congress," said spokesman Craig McCarthy. "With gun control legislation in the last 40 years it's been a seven-year battle to get anything enacted."
So what Reed's office hopes, McCarthy said, is that the idea will simmer long enough that it will gradually gain more congressional support.
That's unlikely, said Julie Turner, spokeswoman for Rep. Charlie Stenholm, D-Texas.
"We haven't held hearings on the issue - obviously this is an issue that would be dead in the water," said Turner.
Turner said the fake idea of reporting gun ownership on tax forms "would not find any support in any Congress."
Many Texans confused by the fake e-mail have demanded answers from Stenholm's office.
San Angelo resident Bud Rector got word of the legislation through the fake e-mail.
"It came up on the Internet," said Rector. "I sent it to Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and she said it's likely not going to get out of committee."
Rector owns a handgun, has a license to carry a concealed weapon and is a certified instructor who teaches others how to carry concealed handguns.
Rector said he's extremely opposed to the legislation, because he sees it as a step toward confiscating the weapons.
"I think it would be extremely effective," Rector said. "It worked in Nazi Germany, it worked in Russia. Whenever you want to confiscate guns it's tremendously effective."
On the Net: The fake e-mail and correct information can be found at www.gunregistration.org
(Scripps Howard intern Joseph Gannon contributed to this report.)

© 2000 Scripps Howard News Service
 
How is this a "fake" e-mail? If you read the wording of S 2099 you'll find all the right (or wrong) words there in. It is true that this bill doesn't have much chance of getting anywhere (Feinstein's bill is worse and has stronger sponsors) but that doesn't make the e-mail a fake.
 
Oatka,

A thread about S2099 probably would find a better home in Legal/Political.
I'll ship it over there for you.
 
I read the bill. It didn't say anything about listing guns on income tax returns. Everybody keeps saying it's in there, but no one can quote it for me.

Maybe that's what they meant by fake.

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"Anyone feel like saluting the flag which the strutting ATF and FBI gleefully raised over the smoldering crematorium of Waco, back in April of ‘93?" -Vin Suprynowicz
 
Misinformed, maybe, but not a fake. SB2099 does exists. Havent read the text as I cant motivate myself to read through all the lawyer BS. What worries me the most about this bill is that everyone is telling me to not worry about it, even its sponsors. That makes me worry, that they are downplaying its importance so we forget about it or something.

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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein
 
The Staff of TFL has been locking threads on this subject because the bill is dead. It has been explained in numerous threads here in Legal and Political, but it somehow keeps cropping up.

I agree that it is important for freedom-loving Americans to know who the perpetrators of this unconstitutional BS are, so I'm leaving this particular thread open.

It doesn't hurt to make reference to this bill when writing your legislators and just keep them apprised that we know what they are up to, and its usually nothing good!

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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4
Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
I'd like to see the thread locked, for now...


www.goal.org/hotline.html
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9/10/00

Let Sleeping Dogs Lie

You may have heard noises about a looney piece of federal legislation numbered SB2099, filed by Jack Reed (D-RI), that would require registration of your guns on
your 1040 tax return. The bill is real, but has been tabled. It has little chance of being discussed, much less passed.

Contrary to advice you may have gotten on the internet, the NRA and other gun rights groups are asking gun owners not to contact their legislators about this bill.
There is really no need to draw attention to what is a dead issue. It won't do any good, and at worst it might help revive it.

We mention this bill so that you are aware of the radical thinking of the gun-grabbers. It shows how important it is for gun owners and other sportsmen to organize
behind GOAL and NRA to elect legislators who will defeat ideas like these. Our best offense is to elect pro-gun candidates whenver we can.[/quote]

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~USP

"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
Note also: Wasn't Sen. Craig appointed chair of that committee to fill a vacancy? IIRC, he's on the NRA board; this bill will shrivel and die on the vine, never having seen the light of day.
 
My brother, who I signed up to the NRA this year, sent me, and a whole bunch of other people, this e-mail.

I don't care if the bill had a negative percent chance of making it into a law. If it will motivate my brother into getting involved in informing others of gun-control laws, I'm all for passing this e-mail around. Some one did write this bill, and did put it up for consideration. How many times were gun-control laws in CA and NY put forward until they passed? Just because it's dead today, doesn't mean it'll be dead tomorrow or next year. These bastards come back to life more often than Jason or Frankenstein combined.
 
Got this from the NRA this morning or last night. As long as the bill is in Committee it is NOT dead. Tabled maybe, but not dead. Each and every one of us needs to remember that politicians are bought and paid for on a daily if not more frequent basis. Keeping our eyes open and making sure that this thing does not get out in ANY form is not a bad idea. Contacting your reps, to express your opinion is never a bad idea. Positive reinforcement is just as important as negative, so maybe contact the memners of the committee who are keeping this tabled and thank them for doing their duty in upholding the Constitution.
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THE FACTS ABOUT S. 2099

There has been a great deal of misinformation circulating on the Internet
about S. 2099, the Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000, introduced
by anti-gun U.S. Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.). We hope this quick guide will
help to put to rest fears about this legislation, so that the pro-gun
community can focus its efforts on real concerns, such as attempts by
anti-gun senators to ban gunshows, ration lawful gun purchases, and ban
the importation of "high capacity" magazines, not to mention the upcoming
elections.

S. 2099 seeks to do the following:

* Treat handguns similarly to machine guns, short-barreled shotguns and
rifles, or destructive devices by amending the National Firearms Act (NFA)
-- the federal law that established the strict controls that regulate
machine guns, short-barreled shotguns and rifles, destructive devices,
etc. This means photographs, fingerprints, and background checks on all
transfers of handguns, as well as registration of the firearms and those
who own them, restrictions on interstate transportation, etc. Registration
information would be available for online access by state & local law
enforcement officials.

* Tax all handgun transfers at $5 per transfer (the current tax on machine
guns and other NFA-regulated items is $200.00). The tax on making handguns
would be $50, again as opposed to the current $200. Unlike machine guns,
handguns could still be imported.

* Allow current handgun owners one year to register all of their handguns.
Registration forms would be available at Post Offices and on the Internet.
Unlike machine guns, multiple handguns could be registered on a single
form. A public awareness campaign would take place to encourage
compliance.

S. 2099 does not seek to do the following:

* S. 2099 does not require the IRS enforce the new regulations. The only
reason people think the IRS would be involved is that S. 2099 seeks to
amend the Internal Revenue Code, which happens to include the NFA. The NFA
is enforced by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms (BATF).

* S. 2099 does not require that handguns be listed on Form 1040 income tax
returns.

* S. 2099 cannot be enacted immediately by the Senate Finance Committee.
The Constitution requires legislation to pass both houses of Congress and
to be signed by the President, and S. 2099 is just like any other piece of
legislation.

PLEASE LET OTHERS IN THE PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT COMMUNITY KNOW THAT S. 2099
HAS VIRTUALLY NO CHANCE OF PASSING, AND THAT THEY SHOULD FOCUS THEIR
CONCERNS ON THE LEGISLATION REFERENCED IN THE INTRODUCTION AND WORKING TO
ENSURE PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT CANDIDATES ARE ELECTED TO OFFICE IN NOVEMBER.


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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein
 
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