Fabulous Felon-Flattener?

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David Scott

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A couple of posts got me thinking. Ruger and Taurus both have new DA revolvers in .454 Casull. From what I've read of it, this round makes the .44 Mag seem kind of iffy. It seems to be intended for handgun hunting, though. Anyone know if there have been self-defense shootings with the .454 Casull, and if so, how many miles downrange the loose body parts came to rest? :)

Would any of you seriously consider a Ruger Super Redhawk or Taurus Raging Bull in .454 as a home or CCW gun? Or are you waiting for the .500 Linebaugh versions?
 
I personally wouldn't consider one as a daily defensive gun. (This coming from a man that carries a Smith .44 every day. ;)) However I have met a man at a show that carries a Taurus Raging Bull as his CCW and one that carries a Desert Eagle. I do conceal a Desert Eagle as a demo for our concealemnt rigs and it is surprisingly comfortable but a bear to haul out. At one show I hauled it out for the "Oh, wow. Gee whiz" factor only to have the man across the table pull one from under a coat.
As I've always said I think a person should carry the largest gun they are comfortable and competent with. Although there may be limits. :D

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Gunslinger
 
Defense against dangerous game? Yes.

Against humans? No, it would not be my choice, unless it was my only choice, of course.
 
IMHO,

Too big and unwieldy for the intended purpose. Also, too likely to fly out of your hand when you shoot if you're wounded. Me: .45 or .357 Mag. is maximum carry caliber.

Ledbetter

[This message has been edited by Ledbetter (edited July 20, 2000).]
 
In theory, you could take one of the "hand cannon" calibers and load something like a solid tough nylon wadcutter slug of about 70 grains or so up to around...3,000fps? Or more?

:)

Wouldn't be a good long-range choice...but the terminal effects should be VERY terminal. Downright explosive. As in coroner's reports with stuff like: "we had to sponge the armed robber's left lung off of the liquor store ceiling and use a shovel for everything else".

:D

Jim
 
I own a .454 Casull, and I'm getting ready to reload for it, so I'm somewhat familiar with it's quirks.
Here are the problems:
The .454 Casull absolutely demands a very hard bullet to avoid leading. ALSO, and more importantly downrange, at the speed the bullet goes, if it is not very hard cast, it will splatter when it hits the target. That's why you can't use .45 Colt bullets at .454 Casull speeds.
Another problem is overpenetration. If you're using the proper bullet, then it's gonna go through a human without even changing shape. The .45 Colt is as close to the .454 Casull as you can get and still have a self defense round. Personally, I'd hat to protect myself with a Casull, as I'd just be making swiss cheese out of a BG rather than stopping him.

BTW, I use my Raging Bull as my home defense gun...loaded with hot .45 Colts. The .454 Casulls are for the range and elk.
 
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