Fabrica de Armas 1930 7.62 MM Markings...

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Hi all, I am new to the board, first post.

I have a question, I inherited this gun from my grandfather. It is my belief that the stock has been changed from military to hunting style.

It has a 21" barrel and a TON of different markings on it.

It has maltese crosses on the floor plate and near the front of the front bolt that bolts the trigger frame to the stock and barrel, as well as on the bolt and on the trigger frame. There is a "G" on the left side of the barrel, and a C under the barrel. There is an "M" inside a circle on the trigger and inside the trigger housing. I want to know if anyone knows what this stuff means? I have heard that the maltese crosses and the "M" inside the circle are things Germany used to mark it's military weapons, yet Fabrica de Armas Oviendo 1930 most definitely marks it Spanish. There is also another strange marking almost like bull horns on the bottom right side of the barrel. Without further adieu:

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You have a sporterized Spanish Modelo 1916 short rifle. It is based on the Mauser 1893 action made at the armory at Oviedo in Spain in 1930. The stock has been replaced with an aftermarket stock, an OK replacement if you ask me. The cross in the circle is an armory mark for the Oviedo armory.

There is a lot of discussion about the type of ammo you can/should fire in it, and a lot of opinions about these rifles in general, not all of it factual. The action is plenty strong, but was designed for a lower pressure cartridge, the 7X57mm, aka 7mm Mauser. Since 7.62X51mm NATO ammo operates at just slightly higher pressure, these rifles were rebarreled and put into reserve armories in the 1960s, to be used in case of national emergency. 7.62X51mm NATO is not the same as 308 Winchester, although the case dimensions are the same. The rifles were not intended for high-volume shooting of 308 Winchester ammo, this will damage the action and possibly the shooter.
 
Scorch has it pretty much. Although my opinions all of which may not be factual would ask, What of the 7.62CETME round the Spanish developed in the late 50's and produced in the 60's. And they converted many1893 type action to the 7.62CETME-dimensionally the same as 7.62NATO. And, IIRC, the early(1960's) G1 series of CETME auto rifle-in 7.62CETME-would be damaged by 7.62NATO or 308Win. The later series?G3? Cetme auto loader will handle the NATO ammo fine. The CETME ammo is anemic compared to NATO or 308W ammo. NATO and 308W are pretty much the same. Some may make the case that 308W is marginally hotter than 7.62N. The Swiss 1889 rifle could use GP-11 a more modern ammo for last ditch national defense too if normal lower pressure ammo wasn't at hand. So the Spanish with their 1960's 7.62CETME rifle designs could use the 7.62NATO ammo as a last ditch effort, even though Spain wasn't a Nato member until the 1980's, very interesting. FWIW, I don't own a Spanish rifle but do know people on both sides of the lower versus higher pressures for the 93 types. BestWishesAll
 
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