Ever wish you hadn't given someone the idea to get a firearm? (long story)

Vortexyz

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The idea for this thread came up when I was going through the "what do you grab when something goes bump in the night." I was thinking to myself about the times I have gone to investigate a bump, but I could only think of one instance where I was rudely awakened. I'll get to how it relates to the title after the story.

I work at a summer day camp when I am not at college, and the first year I worked there I actually lived in one of the cabins with some of the other staff, so i spent my off hours there as well. Now this camp has a serious squirrel problem (or what i like to call a "target rich environment":D). They were getting into the horse feed, into the cabins, and getting into the kids lunch boxes and such. I told the camp director I had a .22 at home and would gladly thin the population out a bit, but he kind of blew me off.

As the summer progressed the problem got worse and he asked me if I could give him some advice on purchasing a firearm for dealing with the squirrels. Since it would be his only gun, I suggested a 12 gauge pump because he could use it for just about anything, including the squirrels. I also wanted to make sure that he was going to hit them, and I didn't want to have to worry about him shooting a .22 into the trees if I wasn't there to remind him about firearm safety. He said he'd think about it, and i thought that was the end of it.

I went home to see my family that weekend, and he called me to ask if I could bring my .22 down when I came back to take care of some squirrels. This was like an inviting a kid into a candy store, so of course I obliged.
I was waiting for the next Saturday because I knew nothing was going on and I could get all sighted in and do some work. I left the rifle locked and bagged in the trunk of my car all week to keep it safe from curious eyes and hands.

Saturday came and I awoke to the sound of a gunshot extremely close to the cabin, then another. I immediately jumped up sprinted out the door in my boxers to the trunk of my car to get my .22. I was the only person who had special permission from the director to have firearms (it is expressly forbidden in the employee contract) at camp, so I had no idea who was shooting and what they were shooting at. When I got to my car (it was right in front of the cabin), I looked up to identify the perceived threat.
My boss was standing about 25 yards from the cabin, with a Pardner Pump he had purchased that morning. I was both relieved and angered at the same time. Relieved the situation was not what I had expected (good thing because I had left my car keys in my jeans:eek:) and angered because of the dangerous situation my boss created by not letting me know what he was up to. I realize it is his property and he doesn't have to run things by me, but the situation could have been handled better.

After I got dressed we had a discussion about firearm safety and I came up with a check in system to make sure nobody started shooting without the other knowing.

Looking back, I regret suggesting he get a shotgun, and still kick myself for not thinking about single shot air rifles when he asked.

I've introduced plenty of people to the joy of shooting safely and with the proper respect the sport deserves, but I wish I hadn't done it that time.
anybody else have a similar experience?
 
No. I know a few that I wish didn't have CCW permits. I made a thread about how dangerous they are and how they always pull their guns at stupid times and muzzle sweep people. These people are also the type that think "I have a card that says I can have a gun therefore I know what I am doing!" There were 3 pages of responses telling me I am a bad person for not wanting two complete idiots out in public with loaded pistols.
 
I fail to see the problem. You are mad because your friend/boss who owns the property was shooting and woke you up?

Was he operating it unsafely?

So far, I haven't seen anything in your post to justify your wishing he didn't have a gun. Further, when something goes bump in the night you reach for a .22 rifle?

Your post is kind of all over the place, No comprende compadre.
 
ripnbst -I wasn't upset that it he was shooting and woke me up. I was upset because he was shooting in what I thought was an unsafe manner. He had no previous firearms experience (and was very bad about muzzle control and keeping his trigger finger out of the trigger guard until I explained the rules of safe gun handling) and I wanted to get him out to a range to make sure he was going to be safe before he started shooting a shotgun around buildings and people. I have witnessed him make the same errors over and over.

I'm sorry if I glossed over details, but I was trying to prevent a long post from getting longer.

As far as reaching for the .22 it was the only thing I had in the same county at the time.

Sorry if the post seemed rambling, it was late.:o Hope this clarification helps
 
In 1989, I moved to Arizona. I brought my guns with me. I had a brother in law in Tucson and delivered some things for him from his family in Illinois and I spent a couple of days there before moving on to Phoenix for my job.

My BIL used to hunt but had given it up because of a progressive lung disease.

He had no handguns and mentioned that he kind of wished that he had something around the house for home protection.

I gave him a Smith and Wesson 459 and worked with him how to use it and clean it. I told him we needed to go out to the desert and actually use the gun.

He agreed and decided we would do that after I got settled and came back for a visit.

We never got around to it. To keep the grandkids safe, he put the gun in a locked box and hung it on a chain behind his computer. He did the same thing with the ammo. He put that in another locked box and hung it on a chain.

I asked him if he thought any bad guys would give him time to assemble his weapon and he just gave me a blank look.

He died a few years ago and never fired the weapon.

I asked his wife about the gun 5 or 6 years ago and she informed me that she was going to use it and get her CCW.

My BIL died in 2001 and it is now 2012 and my SIL still does not have a CCW.

That gun did not cost a lot but it certainly deserved better treatment than it got.

I should have thought about it more before I gave it to him. The fault is mine and mine alone.

The 459, IMHO, is not a particularly desirable piece to own or use, but I sure wish I had done things differently.

Geetarman:(
 
Further, when something goes bump in the night you reach for a .22 rifle?

The post clearly showed that was the only option at the time. Not to mention there are plenty of news stories where the difference between being a victim or not rested on a .22 rifle.
 
On the positive you have a new gun owner. It's your job now to make sure he becomes a responsible one.

To be honest this isn't his fault. How do you expect someone to be safe if they are never taught? We have an educational system that refuses to teach basic firearms safety so this is what you get.
 
I guess I'm getting old, but I simply cannot imagine suggesting to someone who has never owned a gun and never shot that they START with a 12-gauge shotgun -- for squirrels.
 
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