What's the scoop on Ruger's role in the magazine ban? I've seen stories on the web saying Ruger himself advocated a ban on POSSESSION, which boggles my mind. Is this story really true? I love Ruger guns, but frankly this sounds much worse than what S&W did. What are feelings on a boycott?
Et tu, Ruger?
- Thread starter Cosmoline
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A boycott has been going on for years, at least by some people. Ruger proposed a mag capacity restriction of 15 rounds. Officially, he thought that this would appease the other side. He specifically stated that if we give up a little now, we can keep other rights longer.
This appeasement policy in and of itself is grounds for boycotting Ruger (he must be illiterate or he would have known how appeasement ends. Just ask the Czechs, Poles, and Austrians.) However, Ruger's real intent was much more nefarious. In return for his public support, the Mini-14 is specifically excluded from the assault weapons list. In fact, ATF cannot put the Mini-14 on the list. Take a look at 18 U.S.C. 922 and Appendix A. As a matter of law, the Mini-14 (the weapon used to kill FBI agents in Miami) is NOT an assault weapon.
Ruger is a traitor who deserves to rot in hell, notwithstanding his political rehabilitation by the NRA after he donated to the Museum (note, he gave money to the museum, not the legislative fund that could have mitigated the damage that traitor did). I will not buy a Ruger until ole' Bill is rotting in his grave.
This appeasement policy in and of itself is grounds for boycotting Ruger (he must be illiterate or he would have known how appeasement ends. Just ask the Czechs, Poles, and Austrians.) However, Ruger's real intent was much more nefarious. In return for his public support, the Mini-14 is specifically excluded from the assault weapons list. In fact, ATF cannot put the Mini-14 on the list. Take a look at 18 U.S.C. 922 and Appendix A. As a matter of law, the Mini-14 (the weapon used to kill FBI agents in Miami) is NOT an assault weapon.
Ruger is a traitor who deserves to rot in hell, notwithstanding his political rehabilitation by the NRA after he donated to the Museum (note, he gave money to the museum, not the legislative fund that could have mitigated the damage that traitor did). I will not buy a Ruger until ole' Bill is rotting in his grave.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/1976/ruger.htm
The following appeared in the September/October 1992 issue of American Handgunner, page 18:
"To settle this controversial matter of Mr. William B. Ruger's stance on magazines, we excerpt the following passages from Mr. Ruger's letter which he sent to every member of Congress on March 30, 1989. The reader is urged to draw his own conclusion on whether Mr. Ruger did or did not advocate banning magazines."
"The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the posession of high capacity magazines. By a simple, complete, and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifles' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single ammendment to Federal firearms laws could prohibit their posession or sale and would effectively implement these objectives."
The following appeared in the September/October 1992 issue of American Handgunner, page 18:
"To settle this controversial matter of Mr. William B. Ruger's stance on magazines, we excerpt the following passages from Mr. Ruger's letter which he sent to every member of Congress on March 30, 1989. The reader is urged to draw his own conclusion on whether Mr. Ruger did or did not advocate banning magazines."
"The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the posession of high capacity magazines. By a simple, complete, and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifles' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single ammendment to Federal firearms laws could prohibit their posession or sale and would effectively implement these objectives."
unforgiven
Inactive
Sounds like Mr Ruger likes to sell guns. If the law was changed as such it would have little effect on his business, as usual the consumer/end user gets screwed!
Bill Ruger is a defender of his bank account not the RKBA!
Unforgiven
Bill Ruger is a defender of his bank account not the RKBA!
Unforgiven
Some time back I read an interview (maybe Guns and ammo?) with His Rugerness. He was asked about this highcap business and given alot of print space for his reply. He went on and on, self righteously, about gun rights and freedom, etc.
I read the damn thing 4 times and I could not find any denial. His Rugerness said nothing to convince me he wasn't guilty as charged.
and NO, I won't buy ruger products
I read the damn thing 4 times and I could not find any denial. His Rugerness said nothing to convince me he wasn't guilty as charged.
and NO, I won't buy ruger products
My first gun was a ruger.45.
Hint hint on the screenname.
I bought it used Im a happy to say.
Ive actually seen Ruger featured right next to Heston in a number of the NRA's mags
(what no one else has)
Will the NRA eve breathe one word of his support for the mag ban or the so called AW
ban.Hell no because he continues to contribute to the NRA quite generously.Cant remember three NRA mags in a row I didnt see some sort of Ruger advertise in it.Is their a law saying we have to be told if the NRA or certain heads of the NRA are overpaid for a few add's.
Its pathetic how it seems we get more help from the foreign guncompanies than the domestic ones.
But heck lets not go on too much because the NRA is our leader and without them we would have the gunlaws I mean guns we have today,
and soon well have the money and manpower to enforce all of those gunlaws.
WHOOPEE!!
Everyone send the NRa more money and go buy a colt or hunting license to support your rights.
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org www.keepandbeararms.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
Hint hint on the screenname.
I bought it used Im a happy to say.
Ive actually seen Ruger featured right next to Heston in a number of the NRA's mags
(what no one else has)
Will the NRA eve breathe one word of his support for the mag ban or the so called AW
ban.Hell no because he continues to contribute to the NRA quite generously.Cant remember three NRA mags in a row I didnt see some sort of Ruger advertise in it.Is their a law saying we have to be told if the NRA or certain heads of the NRA are overpaid for a few add's.
Its pathetic how it seems we get more help from the foreign guncompanies than the domestic ones.
But heck lets not go on too much because the NRA is our leader and without them we would have the gunlaws I mean guns we have today,
and soon well have the money and manpower to enforce all of those gunlaws.
WHOOPEE!!
Everyone send the NRa more money and go buy a colt or hunting license to support your rights.
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org www.keepandbeararms.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
Here's everything you need to know about Bill R's stance on RKBA. This is taken directly from Ruger's web site.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Even though most violent crime is committed by a tiny fraction of the population, these violent felons are misusing illegal guns in all sorts of ways. The question should not be "How do we ban guns from a population in which almost all citizens are law-abiding?" but rather, "How do we minimize the criminal misuse of guns?"
Toward that end, we urge consideration of:
Instantaneous, point-of-sale background checks In the computer age, there is no reason why a person's criminal and mental health record cannot be electronically checked at the point of sale. There should also be adequate safeguards so that a person improperly denied a purchase can appeal the decision to an impartial fact-finder.
After ensuring, insofar as possible, that a person is an adult, is not insane and has no criminal record, he or she should not be precluded from promptly exercising their Constitutional right to own a firearm. Discretionary permit laws are an affront to law-abiding citizens. Arbitrary governmental intrusions into their freedom of choice to own a gun do nothing but disarm the wrong people.
Prohibition of unsupervised possession of firearms by persons under age 18, with severe penalties. While the tradition of adult supervised firearms training and use is an ancient and healthy one, we cannot condone the unsupervised use of firearms by immature youths. Penalties should be severe for anyone who sells a firearm to a youth in violation of the law. Furthermore, any person using firearms should be treated by our justice system as an adult for the purpose of enforcing any penalties for intentional or accidental misuse of them.
Eliminating guns in schools We all want our children and grandchildren to be safe in school and become productive citizens. With certain exceptions for educational purposes and for organized in-school and afterschool activities, such as rifle teams, scouting, and the like, there is absolutely no reason why guns should be in any school building. Youths who bring unlawful guns to school should be immediately expelled and prosecuted. Of course, any criminal assaults committed with guns in schools should be treated as harshly as the law permits for adults committing the same crime.
Expanding firearms safety programs Despite a manyfold increase in the number of guns and gun owners, firearms accidents have been steadily and dramatically decreasing throughout this century to an all-time low.
Firearms safety education can and has demonstrably reduced needless accidents with firearms, particularly among younger persons. Yet, any suggestion of such a widespread educational program is immediately met with the response that it is actually "promoting guns" If we took this attitude toward sex and drug education programs, we would be accused of being naive and immature. It's time we grew up with respect to the fact that firearms handling is completely dependent upon the mental attitude and ability of the person handling the gun. No gun ever loaded, pointed, and fired itself. Gun safety programs save lives, and the firearms industry has proudly and successfully lead the way, without any government requirement to do so. We invite all who are interested in the safe and responsible use of firearms to join us.
Encouragement of secure 'Storage of firearms and ammunition Either a gun is in use or it should be unloaded. This is an elementary gun safety rule. A very few persons leave loaded guns lying about where they are accessible to children, careless adults, or thieves, and this cannot be condoned. There are many ways to responsibly store firearms and ammunition. We have sold many of our pistols in lockable storage boxes. How a gun can be safely and securely stored and yet available for personal protection is completely dependent upon a whole host of individual circumstances. Personal responsibility is the key.
Increased scrutiny of retail firearms sales A number of years ago, we informed distributors of Ruger firearms that they were only to sell our products to legitimate retail gun dealers. We believe that, in this manner, the products can be properly promoted, their safe operation more adequately explained, and that fewer of our products would end up in the hands of unethical dealers. We pledge to redouble our efforts to stop sales by distributors to those who do not qualify to be on our dealer list.
We urge that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms also intensify its efforts to prosecute illegal gun sales. We feel that there should be severe penalties for firearms dealers who knowingly sell to unqualified individuals or who knowingly participate in "straw man" transactions in which the dealer knows that an ostensibly "legitimate" customer is actually purchasing the firearm to redeliver it to an unqualified person, or for transport into a prohibited jurisdiction.
Ensuring that any proposed legislation adequately protects the rights of law-abiding citizens Those of us who have lived with state or city permit systems for possession or use of a firearms know full well that they are fraught with real and potential abuses. Arbitrary denials by systems in which bureaucrats have unbridled discretion over who may possess a firearm, without carefully thought out and objective standards, are an anathema to a democracy.
Enforcement of tough sentences for use of firearms in crime We must regain. the will to expend our resources and separate from society the violent few that cause such a large percentage of havoc. If a mandatory sentence exists for using a gun in a crime, why in heaven's name isn't this prosecuted first, rather than as an afterthought, if at all?
Rethinking what we accept as "entertainment'' When was the last time you saw a firearm portrayed in the media as anything other than an instrument of mayhem? The saturation of youth with gory violence in the name of 11 entertainment" has a desensitizing effect upon their willingness to take up arms against each other. Let's not pretend otherwise. Guns are constantly portrayed as anti-personnel weapons on television "entertainment" shows and then piously denounced on the same station's news and editorial broadcasts. Some stations won't even run televised firearms safety messages because "they show a gun" The media must bear a serious responsibility in formulating the public's attitude concerning what constitutes the normal and correct use of firearms.
Reexamination of social responsibilities, values, and attitudes toward violence Many urban leaders have urged that the communities which suffer and inflict the most violence upon themselves must move to a higher level of sensitivity against violence. This is all to the good. Ironically, young urban criminals who prey upon their communities are usually precluded from owning any firearms legally, as are their victims. We totally agree that this kind of violence must cease. We must also recognize, however, that the lawful ownership of firearms by rural sportsmen who comply with their own laws has absolutely nothing to do with urban violence. If it were within our power to sweep the streets of illegal guns, we would gladly do so. What we will not do is sacrifice the rights of decent people to own guns in an attempt to disarm illegally armed criminals. Promotion of the values of character and conscience that prevent us from harming one another will be the only effective change to this senseless cycle of violence.
Originally printed December 1993
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There's the words of the man himself. He supports registration, censorship, prosecution of "illegal" (meaning private) sales, and free-fire zones for criminals. He thinks kids can't be trusted with a .22 in the woods now, unlike when he was a kid himself.
Bill Ruger's a damned hypocrite, plain and simple.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Even though most violent crime is committed by a tiny fraction of the population, these violent felons are misusing illegal guns in all sorts of ways. The question should not be "How do we ban guns from a population in which almost all citizens are law-abiding?" but rather, "How do we minimize the criminal misuse of guns?"
Toward that end, we urge consideration of:
Instantaneous, point-of-sale background checks In the computer age, there is no reason why a person's criminal and mental health record cannot be electronically checked at the point of sale. There should also be adequate safeguards so that a person improperly denied a purchase can appeal the decision to an impartial fact-finder.
After ensuring, insofar as possible, that a person is an adult, is not insane and has no criminal record, he or she should not be precluded from promptly exercising their Constitutional right to own a firearm. Discretionary permit laws are an affront to law-abiding citizens. Arbitrary governmental intrusions into their freedom of choice to own a gun do nothing but disarm the wrong people.
Prohibition of unsupervised possession of firearms by persons under age 18, with severe penalties. While the tradition of adult supervised firearms training and use is an ancient and healthy one, we cannot condone the unsupervised use of firearms by immature youths. Penalties should be severe for anyone who sells a firearm to a youth in violation of the law. Furthermore, any person using firearms should be treated by our justice system as an adult for the purpose of enforcing any penalties for intentional or accidental misuse of them.
Eliminating guns in schools We all want our children and grandchildren to be safe in school and become productive citizens. With certain exceptions for educational purposes and for organized in-school and afterschool activities, such as rifle teams, scouting, and the like, there is absolutely no reason why guns should be in any school building. Youths who bring unlawful guns to school should be immediately expelled and prosecuted. Of course, any criminal assaults committed with guns in schools should be treated as harshly as the law permits for adults committing the same crime.
Expanding firearms safety programs Despite a manyfold increase in the number of guns and gun owners, firearms accidents have been steadily and dramatically decreasing throughout this century to an all-time low.
Firearms safety education can and has demonstrably reduced needless accidents with firearms, particularly among younger persons. Yet, any suggestion of such a widespread educational program is immediately met with the response that it is actually "promoting guns" If we took this attitude toward sex and drug education programs, we would be accused of being naive and immature. It's time we grew up with respect to the fact that firearms handling is completely dependent upon the mental attitude and ability of the person handling the gun. No gun ever loaded, pointed, and fired itself. Gun safety programs save lives, and the firearms industry has proudly and successfully lead the way, without any government requirement to do so. We invite all who are interested in the safe and responsible use of firearms to join us.
Encouragement of secure 'Storage of firearms and ammunition Either a gun is in use or it should be unloaded. This is an elementary gun safety rule. A very few persons leave loaded guns lying about where they are accessible to children, careless adults, or thieves, and this cannot be condoned. There are many ways to responsibly store firearms and ammunition. We have sold many of our pistols in lockable storage boxes. How a gun can be safely and securely stored and yet available for personal protection is completely dependent upon a whole host of individual circumstances. Personal responsibility is the key.
Increased scrutiny of retail firearms sales A number of years ago, we informed distributors of Ruger firearms that they were only to sell our products to legitimate retail gun dealers. We believe that, in this manner, the products can be properly promoted, their safe operation more adequately explained, and that fewer of our products would end up in the hands of unethical dealers. We pledge to redouble our efforts to stop sales by distributors to those who do not qualify to be on our dealer list.
We urge that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms also intensify its efforts to prosecute illegal gun sales. We feel that there should be severe penalties for firearms dealers who knowingly sell to unqualified individuals or who knowingly participate in "straw man" transactions in which the dealer knows that an ostensibly "legitimate" customer is actually purchasing the firearm to redeliver it to an unqualified person, or for transport into a prohibited jurisdiction.
Ensuring that any proposed legislation adequately protects the rights of law-abiding citizens Those of us who have lived with state or city permit systems for possession or use of a firearms know full well that they are fraught with real and potential abuses. Arbitrary denials by systems in which bureaucrats have unbridled discretion over who may possess a firearm, without carefully thought out and objective standards, are an anathema to a democracy.
Enforcement of tough sentences for use of firearms in crime We must regain. the will to expend our resources and separate from society the violent few that cause such a large percentage of havoc. If a mandatory sentence exists for using a gun in a crime, why in heaven's name isn't this prosecuted first, rather than as an afterthought, if at all?
Rethinking what we accept as "entertainment'' When was the last time you saw a firearm portrayed in the media as anything other than an instrument of mayhem? The saturation of youth with gory violence in the name of 11 entertainment" has a desensitizing effect upon their willingness to take up arms against each other. Let's not pretend otherwise. Guns are constantly portrayed as anti-personnel weapons on television "entertainment" shows and then piously denounced on the same station's news and editorial broadcasts. Some stations won't even run televised firearms safety messages because "they show a gun" The media must bear a serious responsibility in formulating the public's attitude concerning what constitutes the normal and correct use of firearms.
Reexamination of social responsibilities, values, and attitudes toward violence Many urban leaders have urged that the communities which suffer and inflict the most violence upon themselves must move to a higher level of sensitivity against violence. This is all to the good. Ironically, young urban criminals who prey upon their communities are usually precluded from owning any firearms legally, as are their victims. We totally agree that this kind of violence must cease. We must also recognize, however, that the lawful ownership of firearms by rural sportsmen who comply with their own laws has absolutely nothing to do with urban violence. If it were within our power to sweep the streets of illegal guns, we would gladly do so. What we will not do is sacrifice the rights of decent people to own guns in an attempt to disarm illegally armed criminals. Promotion of the values of character and conscience that prevent us from harming one another will be the only effective change to this senseless cycle of violence.
Originally printed December 1993
[/quote]
There's the words of the man himself. He supports registration, censorship, prosecution of "illegal" (meaning private) sales, and free-fire zones for criminals. He thinks kids can't be trusted with a .22 in the woods now, unlike when he was a kid himself.
Bill Ruger's a damned hypocrite, plain and simple.
Mike Irwin
Staff
HEY!
My dog had NOTHING to do with the magazine ban!
In fact, she wasn't even BORN when the magazine ban was initiated!
You leave her out of it!
I'm so mad that... er... uh... wait. You're talking about the gun company, are you...
Sigh.
BTW. No joke. My dog in named Ruger.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
My dog had NOTHING to do with the magazine ban!
In fact, she wasn't even BORN when the magazine ban was initiated!
You leave her out of it!
I'm so mad that... er... uh... wait. You're talking about the gun company, are you...
Sigh.
BTW. No joke. My dog in named Ruger.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
Glock-A-Roo
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike Irwin:
HEY!
My dog had NOTHING to do with the magazine ban!
In fact, she wasn't even BORN when the magazine ban was initiated!
You leave her out of it!
I'm so mad that... er... uh... wait. You're talking about the gun company, are you...
Sigh.
BTW. No joke. My dog in named Ruger.
[/quote]
Maybe you should rename your dog. I used to call my iguana "Charles Schumer", but that went all to hell over the last decade.
HEY!
My dog had NOTHING to do with the magazine ban!
In fact, she wasn't even BORN when the magazine ban was initiated!
You leave her out of it!
I'm so mad that... er... uh... wait. You're talking about the gun company, are you...
Sigh.
BTW. No joke. My dog in named Ruger.
[/quote]
Maybe you should rename your dog. I used to call my iguana "Charles Schumer", but that went all to hell over the last decade.
I think I'll shed a tear now.. and regretfully add Ruger to "the list." 
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
[This message has been edited by KaMaKaZe (edited September 11, 2000).]
Stepping out the door with your pistol without permit on you is a crime the BATf
that should be prosecuted.
Soon it will also be picking up a loaded weapon in your own house when not in use.
Since its not 'properly stored'.
When you let the government decide who can have a gun and how they should store and soon when they can use it youve really screwed yourself.
JPFO said long ago that the firearm's industry will not help us defend our rights.
Theyll make their money either way.
Bill ruger,single shot shotguns and bolt action rifles hes known for will be safe for a long time yet to come and as the bills roll into his socialist pockets.
OH and Bill the VA and all the Vets added to the BARRED list of the NICS system thank you for you and the NRA's support of the FEd's NICS system.
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
that should be prosecuted.
Soon it will also be picking up a loaded weapon in your own house when not in use.
Since its not 'properly stored'.
When you let the government decide who can have a gun and how they should store and soon when they can use it youve really screwed yourself.
JPFO said long ago that the firearm's industry will not help us defend our rights.
Theyll make their money either way.
Bill ruger,single shot shotguns and bolt action rifles hes known for will be safe for a long time yet to come and as the bills roll into his socialist pockets.
OH and Bill the VA and all the Vets added to the BARRED list of the NICS system thank you for you and the NRA's support of the FEd's NICS system.
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
The last Ruger I bought was in 1984. I'll never buy another one. His Rugerness states that the only way I should be able to sell or transfer my private property is by crawling on hands and knees and begging Big Brother and Big Nanny for permission.
Screw that traitor, Bill Ruger, and screw his company!
The Locomotives Continue Racing Toward Each Other. J.B.
Screw that traitor, Bill Ruger, and screw his company!
The Locomotives Continue Racing Toward Each Other. J.B.
Field-dressed
New member
I heard there was an ongoing boycott of Ruger but wasn't sure why. Bill Ruger is a sniveling traitor. So much for getting myself a 10/22...
Hey Ruger: BITE ME!
Hey Ruger: BITE ME!
Mike Irwin
Staff
Glock-A-Roo,
Not a chance.
When I first met her she was lying in the back of a car, with the muzzle of a Ruger Blackhawk .357 Mag. sticking out from between her paws.
Her owner and the owner's boyfriend were being arrested for possession of said gun.
My dog named herself.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
Not a chance.
When I first met her she was lying in the back of a car, with the muzzle of a Ruger Blackhawk .357 Mag. sticking out from between her paws.
Her owner and the owner's boyfriend were being arrested for possession of said gun.
My dog named herself.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
HELLLLLLO!!
Wake up people everything Ruger has stated the NRA/Lapierre has stated half dozen times already that they support.
The nics check for private transfers they have no problem with they simply want to make sure you can register your gun within 24 hours then its ok with them.
I love "americans" who love compromise
never run out of targets with those 'good little nazi's around'
Send the NRA-ILA money support gun registration.
www.gunowners.org www.keepandbeararms.org www.ccops.org www.citizensofamerica.org www.jbs.org www.jpfo.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
Wake up people everything Ruger has stated the NRA/Lapierre has stated half dozen times already that they support.
The nics check for private transfers they have no problem with they simply want to make sure you can register your gun within 24 hours then its ok with them.
I love "americans" who love compromise
never run out of targets with those 'good little nazi's around'
Send the NRA-ILA money support gun registration.
www.gunowners.org www.keepandbeararms.org www.ccops.org www.citizensofamerica.org www.jbs.org www.jpfo.org
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
Funny you should mention hunting liscenses. Did you know Klinton's cronies spent a significant amount of the federal taxes on ammunition on anti-hunting groups? That the witch who runs the federal game and fish comission spent a huge chunk of your tax dollars on a 2 week Grand Canyon trip for (drum roll, please) herself? Do a little digging, i.e. read the latest issue of Soldier of Fortune for this and other fun tales. Rant mode off.
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[This message has been edited by H&K Fan (edited September 13, 2000).]
For more on the duplicity of Papa Bill Ruger, see:
http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/gz-papabill.html
Also, recall Bill Ruger contributed $1 million to the NRA's firearms museum. Maybe $1 million is the price of forgiveness (or maybe a faulty memory) for some at NRA?
Not me. I'll never buy a new Ruger again.
http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/gz-papabill.html
Also, recall Bill Ruger contributed $1 million to the NRA's firearms museum. Maybe $1 million is the price of forgiveness (or maybe a faulty memory) for some at NRA?
Not me. I'll never buy a new Ruger again.