Entertainment causes violent children

Jffal

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That old chestnut is brought up again. Better put locks on those VCRs/laser/DVD and game players.

Jeff

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Health Groups Directly Link Media To Child Violence
July 26, 2000
WASHINGTON (AP) - Children love teen horror flicks, shoot-'em up interactive video games, hard-core rock and rap and risque television.
And in one of the most definitive statements yet on violence in American culture, four national health associations link the violence in television, music, video games and movies to increasing violence among children.
"Its effects are measurable and long-lasting," the four groups say in a statement. "Moreover, prolonged viewing of media violence can lead to emotional desensitization toward violence in real life."
The joint statement by the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry was to be the centerpiece of a public health summit Wednesday on entertainment violence organized by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.
"The conclusion of the public health community, based on over 30 years of research, is that viewing entertainment violence can lead to increases in aggressive attitudes, values and behaviors, particularly in children," the organizations' statement says.
Advocating a code of conduct for the entire entertainment industry, Brownback compared the statement to the medical community declaring that cigarettes can cause cancer.
"I think this is an important turning point," said Brownback. "Among the professional community, there's no longer any doubt about this. For the first time, you have the four major medical and psychiatric associations coming together and stately flatly that violence in entertainment has a direct effect on violence in our children."
The Motion Picture Association of America and the National Association of Broadcasters refused to comment Tuesday on the medical associations' statement.
The four health professional groups left no doubt about their feelings in the statement:
-"Children who see a lot of violence are more likely to view violence as an effective way of settling conflicts. Children exposed to violence are more likely to assume that acts of violence are acceptable behavior," it said.
-"Viewing violence can lead to emotional desensitization toward violence in real life. It can decrease the likelihood that one will take action on behalf of a victim when violence occurs."
-"Viewing violence may lead to real-life violence. Children exposed to violent programming at a young age have a higher tendency for violent and aggressive behavior later in life than children who are not so exposed."
Brownback said he hopes the statement will convince lawmakers that something has to be done about media violence. And, "I hope parents will look at this and say that they're going to have to police their children's entertainment violence content the same way they police what their children eat and other health issues."
One entertainment violence monitoring group, The Lion & Lamb Project in nearby Bethesda, Md., cheered the statement.
"Right now, the message we're sending children in the media is that violence is OK ... that it's part of life and sometimes it's even funny," executive director Daphne White said. "We're even using violence for humor now."
Jeff Bobeck, a spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters, said television now has V-chips and a rating system to help parents take control of what their children watch. "We think more parents need to control their remote control," Bobeck said.
But White said the entertainment industry markets video games and toys to children based on R-rated movies, has increased the violence in movies and shows that are rated for children and even previewed adult-oriented movies during children's G-rated movies. "The industry has been actively marketing adult stuff to children while saying it's the adults' fault," she said.
 
Personally I agree with the idea of violent media affecting a child's attitude toward violence. Children during their developmental years, at least up till 7 or 8 need to be in a non-violent environment. I personally used to watch a lot of violent shows as a kid, and when I would get in fights I'd pretend I was He-man, or some such. It's not something that doesn't affect kids. That said, it is absolutely idiotic to think that teenagers or adults are somehow brainwashed by the mere presense of a violent video. I am so sick of the computer game industry being targeted for things that really aren't a problem, and people blaming things like Littleton on Quake. Guns get the same stupid reputation, which is unfair. If a kid has never seen a violent act, how would they know to associate guns with those? Notice the media comes down hardest on guns, but they are the very ones that show the most examples of how to misuse them. Simply amazing how hypocritical they are.

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No doubt, some children will eventually act out what they see. Apparently our society is willing to live with this. But some don't want to have guns because some will use them for criminal purposes. The advertisement is based upon the fact that some people will buy goods because of the enfluence of advertisments, but some in the entertainment industry would have us believe that video games and movies don't affect our kids. Are we stupid?

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Alexander Solzhenitzyn:
"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
 
One element that is missing here is PARENTING!
Child A sees typical television/video games/movies and is instructed on the concepts of right versus wrong, personal responsibility, justice, etc... by his or her parents.
Child B sees typical television/video games/movies but is left with no other input but the money/gratification-driven morality of the entertainment industry.
Now which child do you want playing with yours?
Blaming the entertainent industry for violent kids is just as stupid as blaming guns for violence and for the exact same reasons. They are consumer-driven and consumer-irresponsibility generated problems. As long as the consumers demand (by watching) sleazy TV/movies/video games then they will continue to proliferate. As long as consumers are irresponsible with weapons kids will continue to misuse them. Blaming guns and entertainment for society's problems is damning the gate after the horse is loose.
Can the problems be solved? Abso-friggin-lutely. Don't patronize things of which you don't approve... and TEACH YOUR KIDS THE RIGHT WAY!
Hey, where's that soap box come from?!

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Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[This message has been edited by Apple a Day (edited July 27, 2000).]
 
I think it's delicious. Hollyweird flakes like Richard Donner lobby for disarmament of citizens while directing films that glorify unsafe gun handling and senseless violence. Right back atcha, butthead!

Let's hear Hollywood explain how the second only protects colonial militias but the first somehow protects a medium that did not exist when the Bill of Rights wa written.
 
The American Associations of Shrinks and Buttprobers are guilty of historical ignorance, in that they don't consider that for most of the children of the world for most of human history, daily violence, fear and death have been a common thing. Humans nonetheless appear to have thrived and survived. I'd much prefer my kids to view an installment of X-men, to having them as involuntary participants in a real 10th Century Viking village raid, or even one minute of the Hundred Year's War or the French and Indian War or...(fill in your own favorite.)
Also conspicuously ignored by these 'soft-scientists' is the obvious fact that while virtually 100% of children are exposed to media violence, only a small percentage of them act out. And wouldn't you know that the ones who do are the ones who lacked proper nurture and training in respect, self-discipline and morals in the family?
Sheesh. How dumb can some people be? Pray you don't get sick and draw one of THOSE doctors!!

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If they take our guns, I intend to let my hair grow long and acquire the jawbone of an ass.
 
3 million kids watched Beavis and Butthead. ONE of those 3 million decides to torch his house while playing with a lighter and ranting "FIRE! FIRE!"

5 million kids (and adults) listen to The Police singing "Murder by numbers, 1-2-3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCs." ONE kid takes it literally and offs his friend.

Et cetera, et cetera...

My point: if depictions of violence are so pervasive and irresistible, why do we have to use scientific notation to describe the percentages?

Think about that before encouraging censorship, mmmkay? :rolleyes:
 
I fully believe that all of the cyber trash our kids watch has an effect however, I do NOT believ there should be any type of censorship invoked.

That would be another dangerous "slippery slope".

CMOS

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If children are watching more violence than they were when we were kids, that's the parents' faults. The government has no business censoring material, that should be up to the parents to either not allow the child to watch a certain movie, or sit with the child and watch it, then discuss it afterwards.
That's assuming one completely buys this theory. I watched Roadrunner chase the Coyote off a million cliffs, but I never did it to my sister. :rolleyes:
That's because my parents taught me the difference between fantasy and reality, right and wrong. It was NOT the government.
Letting the government teach our kids the difference between right and wrong (OR fantasy/reality for that matter) would be the ultimate irony.
 
Based on the conclusions brought by the "The American Associations of Shrinks and Buttprobers" (I like that one)I am a mass murderer, I just dont know it. Growing up I watched anything with a body count and loved it. My friends and I even went so far as to go out into fields and reenact many of the battles we saw on TV, toy guns, grenades and machine guns in hand (GASP). Never did we so much as consider the thought of doing it for REAL. Why might you ask??? Because we had parents who taught us the difference between reality and fantasy but most importantly right and wrong. There are very few truly evil bad apples out there, the rest are created by crappy parenting. Studies like these are simply a way for stupid parents to pass the buck and for some social worker/program to make a buck. Eventually people will start believing this crap and calling for more mandated government parenting. I cant think of anything scarier than government trying to teach morals and such.

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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein
 
While it serves those Hollywood hypocrites right to have this turned on them, the media (entertainment or otherwise) is only a symptom of the problem of children and violence. This is just another example of a bunch of know-it-alls who have way to much time and money to invest into controlling other people's lives.

Let's not even go into all the other things that contribute to the violence we'er seeing, like parenting, lack of respect for others, situational ethics...etc.

Makes me freakin sick.
 
I believe Parenting is your key answer here. Yes there is quite a bit more violence on TV now more than ever BUT it is the parents responsiblilty to teach that child the difference between TV and reality. I am not one for censorship at all but honestly some of that music now is terrible. We have got people singing about killing cops, raping women, beating women, killing just to kill, hearing that stuff makes me angry with violent tendencies towards these morons. Take Eminem for example, I would love to take that twirp by the head and bash his brains out. BUT I have been raised better than that, I would not do such a thing. This is how the children see it, they have the same tendencies as many of us do but they can not control their actions. I guess the parents didn't teach them its not OK to act out your thoughts when they are violent. The parents need to suggest an alternative to those feelings. Even getting together with a group and expressing feelings and hatered wouldn't be a bad idea. Those ideas and thoughts need to be let out, but in a safe way. Kind of like anger management, its OK to be angry but take a different road to let out that anger. Kids are not taught this efficient way, hence they act out their feelings which causes our society to be more violent.

Perhaps we need more counselors in this world, someone that will listen to the kids and give them a chance to express how they feel. Face it not all parents give their children the attention that is cruical to a healty and happy life. Everyone is too worried about the ozone layer, the weather changes, working to survive, that no one is listening to the kids. (gee that sounds like a for the children statement lol)

Anyway, I do not blame the TV, the video games, or the movies, I blame #1 the governement for making it hard to support a family leaving ample quality time,and not having to work constantly and #2. the parents for being lazy and not attending to their children as they should be. Kids are born innocent, they don't know what hate is, it is a learned behavior and I am afraid they are learning from the wrong examples.

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I dunno. Kids don't need more guidance counselors, they need more discipline. Too many parents want to be their kid's friend. Your child doesn't need another friend, they need a parent. Tune into the Schlesinger show sometime and listen to the parents who are literally afraid of telling their children what to do. I'm not talking about parents of seventeen-year-old gangbangers either. I'm talking about parents of eight-year-olds acting up in school and getting away with it because NOBODY will step in and demand some self-restraint from the child.

There are an awful lot of parents out there that don't seem to have a clue as to what being a parent really means. They act like their kids are expensive pets who only need a pat on the head and some nice clothes to be happy. It's only the most important job any adult will ever have.

Ah, well, rant mode off.

Violent programming isn't the root cause of sociopathic behavior. But it does seem to be a factor. Add thousands of hours of high-intensity media mayhem to a teenager who never learned to bond to others and is now experiencing all the problems of adolescence but can't talk to the absentee parents about it. All of the sudden it's not so surprising anymore.
 
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