Enemy Propaganda

I think the only way to prevent these terrible shootings is to take appropriate action to ensure that they cannot occur. We all know that the shooting at the zoo was done with handguns. I have thought about this long and hard, and I have, reluctantly, come to the conclusion that a total ban is the only answer. Therefore, I am writing my congresspersons and senators from the great state of Texas, demanding that they enact immediate legislation to ban zoos.

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When they try to take away my 2nd Amendment rights, tell them Hell's comin' and I'm comin' with it! Armed and Dangerous
 
Banning all zoos is only just the beginning.
Handguns have a nasty habit of congregating at many, if not all, public facilities. These must be all closed at once so as to protect handguns from being used against each other.
What they do in the privacy of their own homes is another matter... ;)

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...defend the 2nd., it protects us all.
No fate but what we make...
 
We need to ban suicides, anyone caught attempting suicide will be punished.

1. If successful will recieve life in prison or the dealth penalty.

2. If not succesful my plea bargin to recive reduced sentence, maximum sentece 25 years, eligable for paroll within the first six months.


VPC had something about how handguns commit suicides which really they only assist, but to think that ban handguns would decrease suicides.

So after the ban on handguns we need to ban:

knives, cliff's, high rise buildings, rope, medication, cars, fire, water, and the number one way to stop all killings, suicides, crime, etc. etc, BAN HUMANS.
 
Can we ban schools to prevent these tragic and senseless school shootings?

More importantly, can we do it before tomorrow morning?


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If you want some fun, write a polite email to the VPC to innocently ask a question about some of their 'research'. They will ignore you. Their lies cannot stand any daylight whatsoever.

Regards from AZ
 
By the by, gents. Have any of the "gang members" responsible for the murder of the one, and the injuries to the others' been fingered yet. Surely there was some type of monitoring equiptment in the area.
No profiles taken, names mentioned during their alledged confrontation before they all decided to shoot at the kids, and others, instead of at each other...

Again, I ask, what were a couple groups of bangers doing at a zoo? Not that they're not welcome there, but what drew them there?
Next there'll be be a shooting in a Library, or a Monastery where the monks won't swat a fly.

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
 
Glockguy45, have you noticed that some of the same people who rant about handgun suicides support assisted suicide by guys like Kevorkian? Methinks the suicide issue is a smoke screen.

Dick
 
I've E-mailed the heros at VPC quite a few times. They never answer me either.
But I do think it would be a shame if we didn't continue to tell them what a great job they are going saving us from "deadly assault weapons" and "handgun violence".
 
Here is a message I sent them from their "comments" page. I wrote in acting like a person trying to decide which side of the gun issue I should be on. Perhaps enough messages of this type could dent their morale...it's fun anyway! I suggest you all do something along these lines. Try to encourage them to put FACTS in their articles. They won't be able to and they know it because they can only play on emotions. Here it is:

VPC,

I have been doing some of my own research into trying to decide which side of the gun issue I should be on. After looking at the HCI, VPC, and NRA websites I have made a decision.

VPC makes no mention of facts in any of your "fact sheets". I have read a lot of them on your page (though not all of them). I have also read a lot of the articles on the HCI page as well. In every one of the articles I have seen, VPC and HCI try to play on emotions and use no facts to back up the claims being made.

I have also noticed that VPC writes articles in such a way as to imply gun owners and NRA members are the next Timothy McVeigh's. VPC also implies olympic shooters are being trained to be violent killers bent on the terrorization of the U.S. I can hardly believe this.

At the NRA website all I saw on their fact sheets were facts. They used stats. and gave sources as to where they came from and how they came about them.

From what I can tell (at least in 30 or more states) CCW permits decrease crime. This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to gun facts.

I read excerps from Lott's book (on another site) and noticed that the VPC article on Lott's book only tries to belittle Lott. In your article you cannot even refute his findings with any facts. Again you try to play on emotions.

VPC, HCI, and Rosie O'Donnell can have those twisted ideas. I will now carry the idea that guns do MUCH more good than harm (based on statistics no gun controller I could find on the web could refute). Thanks for helping me decide.

Sincerely,

Joel Harmon
 
You know, if you want to get really crazy, and carry these "bans" to their logical conclusion, we could go so far as to make it illegal to murder, rape, and rob even.
 
Even the Zoo Not Exempt From Violence Seven Children Are Shot, and a 16-Year-Old Is Charged http://www.washingtonpost.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=wpni/print&articleid=A42163-2000Apr30


Sunday , April 30, 2000 ; C02

Even in a bullet-riddled society, some places are seen as shelters from the storm. Houses of worship, for instance. Or the manicured lair of the National Zoo.

No longer. Seven children--from 11 to 16 years old--were wounded Monday, one of them critically, when a shooter aimed from across Connecticut Avenue toward the zoo's
entrance. Two groups of youths from the Trinidad and Mayfair neighborhoods in Northeast Washington had scuffled earlier that day inside the zoo.

"They were fighting and swinging, and you know how kids are; everybody went to see the fight," said Nate Lyles, 37, who was at the zoo with his daughter, Shakia, 11. As he
grabbed his daughter and headed for the exit, Lyles said, "Next thing I heard was shots fired."

Twenty-four hours later, police pulled up to a row house in Northeast Washington. They found the suspected gunman, a 16-year-old high school student, hiding behind a heater
in the basement.

Antoine Jones was charged as an adult with assault with intent to commit murder and is being held without bond. His father, as it happens, is also in jail, serving a life sentence
in a federal maximum-security prison in Texas. James Antonio Jones, who went to prison when his son was 5, was the "vice president" of a notorious crack cocaine network
that Rayful Edmond III ran out of his grandmother's house in Northeast Washington in the 1980s.


The zoo closed for a day after the shootings, and children tried their best to come to grips with the violence. Since the school year began, at least 17 students in D.C. public
schools have been killed.

"Some kids were saying that we're not safe in school if we're not safe at the zoo," said Danielle Dailey, 13, a student at Hine Junior High, which one of the wounded youths
attends. "I thought we could all be safe with a lot of people around--until this happened."

As the agonizing continued, police said it still was not clear what set off the shooting.

"It was pretty nonspecific," said Executive Assistant Police Chief Terrance W. Gainer. "It was more territorial than anything else."

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Leave The Guns Behind

Sunday , April 30, 2000 ; B08

Last Monday, I stood at the bedside of a plump, baby-faced 11-year-old boy who was trying to live, his head bandaged against a terrible gun wound. Lying there in silence, he
spoke for almost 700 District children killed by guns in the 1990s.

Here, as in most big cities, guns have brought down kids in ones and twos, not seven children at the zoo, or 14 in a school like the Columbine High School massacre. Yet, a
big-city version of that suburban tragedy has followed our children to the National Zoo, established by Congress for kids.

His family calls him "Pappy" because, as a baby, he resembled a papoose. In their loving laughing descriptions, Pappy emerges as a big "baby" who loves to play, delights in
his mom and loves his dad, his church, his games and childhood.

Pappy's mother and older sister stood silently weeping. I will never forget this mother's quiet whispers to her boy, the minister's perfect, prayerful words, Pappy's silky smooth
brown skin or the harsh clinical lights that reminded me of where I was.

As Pappy fights for his life, I have had it with the pathetic either-or debate about guns vs. some other causes of our chronic violence. When Congress returns, it will start again.
In a supporting role, the media, as much to entertain as to enlighten, will feature yesterday's arguments with today's messengers. We all know our lines. Them: The District and
other cities have gun bans, but lots of gun violence. Us: Pass national gun safety legislation to stop gun running into our gun-free zones. Pappy can't hear it. Nor can the 80,000
children guns have claimed in this country since 1979.

The killing of children by guns--homicides, suicides and accidents--now includes kid killers. It certainly didn't begin with children, or last Monday or the last century. We shot
our way into this country. We forcibly kept slaves. The violence passed on, imbedded itself in the national character and assumed new forms to fit each period and its excesses:
lynchings in the '20s or organized crime killings in the '30s. Today, it has come down to guns and children.

The violence is in our guns, and it is deep within us. We obsess on violence in our movies, videos, television, cable and literature. We play with violence--from men and football,
to boys and computer games. We live with domestic violence. This dangerous mixture is all the more lethal because the guns and our long love affair with violence today meet
strained or broken families or no real families at all.

Are we finally ready to put it all on the table and sort it out? Breaking off our centuries-old romance with violence will be wrenching. Trying to pull violence out by the roots will
mean coaxing and demanding much more from Hollywood and the networks and particularly from parents and communities.

But if we call a truce, put everything on the table and walk in with our hands up, can we leave the guns out of this picture? I'm willing to begin by conceding that the modest gun
safety bill stuck in Congress probably would not have protected Pappy. I know the bill is not the answer because I don't know all the answers. All the one-shot answers--the
family, the sports, the culture, more enforcement, even guns--need to go.

Precisely because the complexity of the problem, let alone the solutions, is so vexing, we must begin somewhere. Why not begin with one child, shot perhaps by another,
somewhere in America? Why not begin with Pappy here in Washington, where Congress will return this week? It's as good a place as any to start because a bill is within reach.
We have agreement on gun safety locks. Thanks to technology, we can check the overwhelming majority of gun buyers at gun shows. Who would want the 10 percent we most
need to check to slip through because we have left the hole for them to crawl through?

The moms want us to start with guns. A formidable grass-roots network that originates in the suburbs is preparing to march on Washington on Mother's Day. Even before the
shooting, Pappy's mom had intended to be there. The bill the mothers want is a small piece of our most confounding national puzzle, but a national bill can be the signal of a
new national determination that this time guns are on a long, crowded, overdue to-do list.

--Eleanor Holmes Norton

a Democrat, is the District's delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives. http://www.washingtonpost.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=wpni/print&articleid=A41539-2000Apr29
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