Elian's Hair Grew 2 weeks in 5 hours!

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Drudge Report posted two now famous pictures: Elian being escored from the house and Elian in the embrace of his father. Problem is Drudge thinks his hair is quite a bit longer in the shot with his father.
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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater--1964
 
I didn't like the stormtrooper methods, either, particularly with the "Pearl Harbor" tactic of breaking in at the same time that they were negotiating on the phone. However, I don't see any difference in the hair length, just a different camera angle. I did see the picture of the trooper with the MP5 more clearly on CNN and he definitely did not have his finger on the trigger. I was always taught not to point a weapon at anybody/anything that I don't intend to kill. Looks to me like he was pointing that weapon directly at that unarmed fisherman.

If those guys really want to test their courage, they ought to pick out the gang headquarters of a couple of L.A. gangs and break the doors down with their machine guns drawn. If they want to stop crime, they'll take guns away from the people actually doing the crimes, not from the law-abiding middle-class Americans.

[This message has been edited by WalterGAII (edited April 23, 2000).]
 
Don't focus on the hair.

Focus on the baby half-brother.

When was the last time Elian and his baby half-brother were together, and how big was the baby then?

Think, people.

Elian has been in this country for how long?

Five months.

If baby half-brother is in the region of six months old, then he was one month old the last time he and Elian could have their pictures taken together.

Does the kid in the photo look like he's a month old?

Think.

LawDog
 
LawDog...you and I think alike! I had that exact same discussion, almost word for word, with a friend on ICQ about an hour ago! (He posts here too).

I see no difference in the hair, either...just a different camera angle. And as for Elian looking paler in the photo with his father, apparently there are a lot of folks out there who have never taken a picture or had a picture taken of them. A few years ago I came back from a week in the south of France and on the island of Capri with a very dark tan. I was in my best friend's wedding the week I returned. I have several pictures of the event, but two stand out. One shows me how I really looked, with a deep tan. The other one, taken just a couple hours later, shows me as pale and washed out as Casper the ghost! The difference? Lighting, flash, angle, speed...the list goes on.
 
Lawdog,

You may be right, but what makes you think that the kid with the baby is even Elian? The whole premise of this thing is that the pictures of Elian are of some other kid with Elian's head attached to it.

Joe
 
I'll reserve judgement for now. There are experts the world over reviewing the photos. Remember, there are many who would be interested in proving the photos fake. The optimal word is "proving." No proof = no fakes.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Craig: photo of happy Elian 'absolutely authentic'

Sunday, 23 April 2000 11:19 (ET)

Craig: photo of happy Elian 'absolutely authentic'
By HELEN THOMAS, UPI White House Reporter

WASHINGTON, April 23 (UPI) -- Gregory Craig, the lawyer for Elian
Gonzalez' father, strongly denied allegations that a phony photo of Elian
and his father was distributed Saturday after the reuniting of father and
son, declaring it "absolutely authentic."

"No, no, no it's not phony," Craig told United Press International, saying
it had been taken with a throwaway camera by a federal marshal. Craig said
the curtains in the house where the family is staying at Andrews Air Force
Base were visible in the photograph. He said he was in the house and could
verify the surroundings.

The photo offset the devastating of a picture of a federal agent in riot
gear brandishing an automatic weapon and demanding that a frightened Elian
be turned over during a three-minute raid on the Miami home of Elian's
great-uncle Lazaro Gonzalez. Both pictures were displayed worldwide on the
front pages of newspapers and in television programs.

According to Elian's cousin, Marisleysis Gonzalez, the photograph could
not have been taken Saturday, because it showed Elian with longer hair than
he had when he was removed from his Miami relatives' home by federal agents
Saturday morning. "That hair is not Elian's," she said. "I cut hair....It's
my hobby.....Three days before, I had given him a haircut," she said,
pointing to what she said was longer hair in the Saturday afternoon
photographs, released by Craig.

Juan Miguel Gonzalez Sunday celebrated the Easter holiday with his family,
Craig said. Elian and his six-months-old stepbrother were to receive Easter
baskets filled with candy, he said.

Craig said Gonzalez was not at the moment inclined to see the Miami
relatives, who were turned away at the gates of Andrews Air Force Base
Saturday in the company of Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H. Gonzalez, however, is
"prepared to consider" seeing them, he said. The way the family is
"conducting themselves doesn't lead to believe a meeting would be
constructive or supportive," Craig said. "They are not going about it right,
holding news conferences, making allegations, making claims, attacking the
family."

Craig said when Smith telephoned him and asked to see the father and son,
"I respectfully declined."

Craig said on NBC-TV's "Meet the Press" that he felt that eventually
Gonzalez would meet with the Miami relatives. He said the court issue now is
not a custody battle, noting that the Florida family court had ruled that
Elian should be returned to his father. Briefs will be submitted by the
government Monday before the U.S. Court of Appeals on the asylum matter and
by the Miami relatives lawyers on May 1. The court will hold a hearing May
11.

The Gonzalez family is expected to move from the base to another location,
possibly the Wye plantation in Maryland, where the Mideast peace talks were
held, pending a ruling by the court. The court had ruled previously that
Elian could not leave the country until the case was resolved.

--
Copyright 2000 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.[/quote]
 
I don't understand, Law Dog. What are you trying to say. Please elucidate in full if you believe the photos are not authentic (or not contemporary). How & why?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LawDog:
Don't focus on the hair.
Focus on the baby half-brother.
When was the last time Elian and his baby half-brother were together, and how big was the baby then?
...
If baby half-brother is in the region of six months old, then he was one month old the last time he and Elian could have their pictures taken together.
Does the kid in the photo look like he's a month old?
LawDog[/quote]

There you have it. If Elian is shown with a 6-month old brother, the picture could not have been taken 5 months ago- when his brother was a month old.

The real conspiracies- increasing loss of freedoms by an encroaching bureaucracy- are insidious, but obvious.
 
I Repeat!

Lawdog,

You may be right, but what makes you think that the kid with the baby is even Elian? The whole premise of this thing is that the pictures of Elian are of some other kid with Elian's head attached to it.

Joe
 
Does it really matter ?

So long as the kid is back with his father and away from those who gladly used him as a political football, then some sense has prevailed. They should fly them back to Cuba right now and put a stop to this circus of appeals and counter appeals, after all does anyone seriously think that they are going to give the boy back to his uncle, after all the hoohah of getting him back with his father. Cuba looked like a nice place in the news reports, but oh, wait a second, this great and free country of ours doesn't let me vacation there so I guess I'll never know for sure. Seems like communist oppression is more a reality here than people like to think. The home of the free, no not really, just a little more free than some.

Mike H
 
Hmm. Elian's father can only come up with photos of Elian from 5+ months ago...of course!...the Fed Gov't dug up some over-five-month old photos of Elian and cut-and-pasted them over a recent staged photo of Elian's father holding some strangers child! And cut-and-pasted a six-month-old photo of one of the most famous faces in the current world over the face of a model holding the half-brother in a staged photo!

Wait, wait, wait!! The always reliable-and-trustworthy, only-in-it-for-the-good-of-Elian Miami Family says that the hair in the photo is the way it was two weeks ago, before it was cut, hmm.

Ah-Hah!--no doubt CAG or DEVGRU troopies snuck into the Miami home two weeks ago, posed the child, took clandestine photos, and exfiltrated past the several hundred admirers surrounding the home.

Damn, I knew they were good, but I had no idea...

*sigh* Never mind. I give up.

LawDog
 
I don't believe the photos are fake, but I do wonder if anyone knows where I can get one of the "disposable" cameras they used to take the photo. You know, the kind that will give a perfect, well lit, exposure for a close up. Focus is very sharp out to the edge and the flash is apparently far enough off the camera so that it makes shadows low and right. I think those cost about $12.95 at your local drug store.
 
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