Effective Range versus Accurate Range...Max range of bullets and the shooter's skill

Rachen

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Effective Range versus Accurate Range...Impossibly Long Range Shots??

First off, I would like to comment on the movie Lonesome Dove. Seen it many years ago and watched it again these past few days after reading the novel. That movie is perhaps the most historically accurate Western ever made and I couldn't believe there were so many little things that I missed when watching it the first time.

The one instance when Gus was pinned down by Blue Duck and that spectacular shot he made with his Henry against his tormentor was the most memorable:) Which raises one important question: What is the MAX EFFECTIVE range of a projectile fired?

We can assume that Gus' Henry was chambered in either .44 Rimfire or .44-40 centerfire. A 200+/- grain bullet at roughly 1100-1200 fps from the long rifle barrel. Most shooters would tell you that the maximum accurate range for this rifle/cartridge combination would be 100-150 yards. However, Blue Duck was located far from the maximum accurate range of the levergun. Gus was literally at the mercy of Blue Duck's scoped buffalo gun.

But what if the shooter is really skilled and he is able to "range" in on a stationary, or even moving target at 300 yards, 400, or even 600 or more yards? He can then aim his gun at a trajectory and direct the projectile towards the target like a howitzer shell, in an arc path.

With that in mind, the maximum EFFECTIVE ranges of most of our cap and ball and centerfire rifles and pistols would be far more than the usual 25 to 100 yards we aim at in practice.

Speaking from personal experience, I have hit stationary buffalo silhouettes in the "vitals" out to 300 yards with my 1858 cap and ball. Took some practice but it was possible and the sound of the impact drifting back told me that the projectile still packed a good punch. (Though I wouldn't want to hunt an actual bison at that range with the revolver for ethical reasons).

What was your most long range shot ever taken with any caplock/conversion revolver, rifle or carbine? If you have had scored shots which most other people would exclaim "Impossible!", post them here.
 
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The Henrys were never chambered, to my knowledge, in 44-40. They were originally 44 Rimfire and then some were converted to 44 center fire. The 44-40 did not come into being until the 1873.
 
The .44 Henry flat was a 200 grain flat nosed bullet with 28 grains of powder behind it. yeah a real powerhouse it was.:rolleyes:
 
It was a Henry 1866 and it was made by Winchester. It fired the Henry 44 and as previously noted it was a 200 grain bullet in front of 28 grains of black powder. Loved the book, the movie not so much.
 
OK guys, now that we have clarified it is a Henry, lets hear some stories of impossibly long range shots with any caplock rifle or pistol ;)

Lets see just how effective them ol' smokepoles are at extended ranges.
 
The Report of the Secretary of War, 1880, Volume III, under the chapter titled, "Extreme Ranges of Military Small Arms" had this to say:

"The firing was done by Mr. R.T Hare of Springfield Armory who has the enviable distinction, so far as is known, of being the only person in the world who has hit the 'Bull's-Eye' six feet in diameter at 2,500 yards with three different rifles, and who has ever fired at and hit so small a target as that described in this report at 3,200 yards.

In comparison with this, all other so-called 'long range firing' pales into insignificance. The gun was held under the arm, a muzzle rest only being used."

http://home.earthlink.net/~sharpsshtr/CritterPhotos/SandyHook/SandyHook.html
 
Not an impossible shot by any means but I can hit a five gallon bucket most of the time with my .58 Enfield with 70 grains of Pyrodex at 300 yards. Civil War soldiers routinely made longer kill shots with them.
 
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