EEK! Guns at Walmart!

Miss Demeanors

New member
:D I found a board that has some MMM moms posting, and am trying to educate at least one of them. This thread was just posted and I thought it was pretty funny. Who is more scared of the guns here the mom or the kid?

This following letter addresses a
marketing strategy I have
seen to sell guns and weapons. Perhaps
readers of this website would be
interested in this particular store's practice,
but also the general
marketing strategy of gun manufacturers.
Thank you for your consideration.

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Dear Editor:

My seven year old son and I went to Walmart
to pick up patches for his
jeans. We turned up the large aisle between
the toy rows and small
appliance rows on our way to the fabric
section. We walked past toys,
barbies, hotwheels, playdough, basket balls,
tennis balls, soccer balls,
hunting knives and guns. According to an
assistant manager there, all
Walmart stores are conforming to a corporate
layout standard requiring
weapons and firearms to be sold immediately
adjacent to the toy and team
sports section. I have always known that
Walmart sold guns, however, the
small section was on a back wall by the auto
department, with the weaponry
in a cabinet behind the sales associate. It
was inconspicuously placed and
barely noticeable even if you walked by.
However, the new location and
display of weapons and firearms is
extraordinarily prominent, and located
next to the toy section. It is similar in
appearance to jewelry counters,
with big windows displaying large shining
hunting knives and guns. It is a
glittering and glamorous display, and one that
is unavoidable to the eye.

That children often cannot make the
distinction between toys and weapons is
well known. In this country, shootings are
now the fourth leading cause of
unintentional death for children, and for every
child killed, four more are
wounded. Although I myself believe in a strict
restriction of the access
and purchase of guns, I understand that the
right to bear arms in this
country is safeguarded by many. That issue is
another discussion. The
issue here is the responsibility by corporate
entities like Walmart, a
"family" store, to consider the lack of
distinction children will
inevitably have between toys and real
weaponry when designing store
layouts. This lack of distinction often leads to
tragedy, and can only be
perpetuated by a store layout and prominent
display such as Walmart's.

While I am sure that several marketing
wizards discussed the store layout
to determine the best location for weaponry
sales, I have to question the
goal behind placement next to a toy section. I
can only conclude that
Walmart executives desire children's
association of toys and guns to
continue. Perhaps the child who saw the
glitzy weapons display will become
the adult who buys a weapon from Walmart. I
am more inclined to believe
that this is the child who will find a gun in his
or her home or the home
of a friend and become another statistic of
accidental gun death.

Solutions are obvious. The best, of course, is
to simply stop selling
weapons. Walmart commercials boast about
being a "family" store. As a
family store, they don't sell pornography or
adult magazines. In other
words, they don't sell sex. Instead, Walmart
sells violence. An excuse
could be made that these weapons are
designed for hunting, but in my area
of the country there is no hunting. The
weapons would only be used in a
violent or criminal manner.

A second solution would be partitioning. If
Walmart did indeed sell sex
(i.e. adult magazines), these items would be
partitioned from the rest of
the store in an adult only section. Anyone
going in would know that this
was an area of the store with restrictions for
entry. Children would not
be allowed to enter. Walmart could partition
the weapons section in a
similar manner: Adult eyes only. Children
cannot purchase guns anyway.
Why market to them unless your goal is to
market to kids in the same way
cigarette companies do?

The placement and glittering prominence of
the weaponry display at Walmart
is irresponsible. I have informed Walmart's
corporate office
(1-800-WALMART) of my opinion and that I will
no longer patronize any of
their stores. My shopping will take place at a
store with real family
values, one that shows responsibility in its
marketing practices, one that
doesn't try to sell violence to my child by
propagating the lack of
distinction between toys and weapons.

Sandra Brierley
Poway, CA
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One question I asked her "Would you rather have your son see the guns with you around or would rather him see a gun at a friends house and look at it over there, where no adults are present?" This lady scares me, its kids like hers that are going to be the next Columbine kids. Oh and her strategy of just not selling guns all together is oh so brilliant....... :rolleyes: My theory is this IS a family store, what better place to sell firearms, we all want to protect our familes. I also suggested that she include in her letter that they hide all the saws and other dangerous tools as well. :D I told her she should keep her kid in a bubble and shelter him from the real world, this way she won't have to worry about those evil shiny guns that she sees in Walmart.

It has almost been a year now since I 'saw the light' about firearms, and I am sooooooooo glad I do not sound these Moms anymore. They are an accident waiting to happen.

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We are as one as we all are the same fighting for one cause -Metallica
 
Good, put the guns right next to the toys so you can show your kids there is a difference. But no, that would be actually educating your child about guns, which would require logic and common sense. We can't have that,now can we? :confused:

(BTW, funny responses..."hide the saws...." :D )
 
I keep saying that it is a war on the "gun culture". Removing all guns from public areas, and relegating them to "pornographic" status, thus making them "dirty". The current generation of youth is our LAST CHANCE to save the gun culture. If we fail, we'll lose the right to own them when those kids are "in command" of the country.

Draw the line in the sand HERE, NOW, THIS YEAR, or I fear that all is lost.

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It is a glittering and glamorous display

Somehow, I don't associate that with Wal-Mart...
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The
weapons would only be used in a
violent or criminal manner.[/quote]

Well, the weapons can be used to kill criminals in a violent fashion. Hardly a crime in itself.
 
Sandra Brierley is an idiot. Poway is a NE suburb of San Diego. Very interesting and diverse ecological habitats there....parts of the Cleveland National forest is permanent alpine....year round snow capped mountains, pine forests and deer up the wazoo. A little more east is the desert and transitional eco-niches. Deer, varmints, the occasional peccary, feral pigs.

I went to UCSD as an undergrad....there is oodles of good hunting around that part of the country.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
My local Wal-Mart sells guns in the sporting goods section, between pet supplies and automotive products. I guess they aren't part of the conspiracy yet. :)
 
As I read the letter I was curious where it was coming from...It figures. Notice how she:
*Thinks children can't distinguish between plastic w/ orange muzzle plug and steel and wood.
*Says nothing about teaching the diffence.
*Acts like the real firearms are stacked on shelves same as the toys. The real ones are LOCKED UP.(Salesclerk: No, little boy, you can't play with the shotgun.)
*Compares firearms to pornography. Must be some Freudian thing.
*Is clueless to the fact that if you can't hunt/shoot where you live, you go to where you can.
*Doesn't admonish the store to hide/lock up/ stop selling ball bats, golf clubs, hammers, screwdrivers, or cigarette lighters.

The woman's opinion is her own, and she's welcome to it. My opinion is that she is ignorant, apparently by choice, and intends to pass that ignorance on to her child.

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Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone

Nowhere is the dreamer
Or the misfit so alone
-Music by Lee and Lifeson/Lyrics by Peart

[This message has been edited by pack_rat (edited May 01, 2000).]
 
Thanks, DC. I was just about to ask where in the hell she lived, if it was part of the U.S. and yet "has no hunting." What a moron. In other words, nothing outside her hobbies and the raising of her children and the loan payments on her 15-ton four-wheel drive grocery hauler even EXISTS. Man are these people annoying!

As for Wal-Mart, I think it's true--the one in Springfield had this kind of display. She neglected to mention that the guns and ammo are still, of course, under lock and key behind Lexan or something similar. I have no great love for Wal-Mart but the new strategy seems to be to bring guns, knives, hunting stuff, optics, etc together and place them slightly outside the sporting goods area, and I don't see the problem.

Did she think her kids would grow up without ever seeing a gun?
 
As someone said in a previous forum, let us not forget to call and say we support them. She gave us the number in the letter. Give walmart a call and thank them for still selling firearms.
 
Well I have a second job at Wal-Mart and I work in the... *GASP*... Sporting Goods Section! Every day I work I have to look at those instruments of evil :rolleyes: and it has taken it's toll on me. But only because I have to wait until my funds build up before I buy my next "toy". As policy, no-one under 21 is allowed to handle a firearm. My store is a brand new Supercenter and we are on the other side of the store from toys but between electronics and automotive and our guns are right in the main aisle. My God I can't believe we target the children this way!

Sounds like you have come across another parent that doesn't want to have to tell her child no. I guess when the kid sees something he wants that she doesn't like, she will blame whoever made it available, instead of trying to TEACH the boy something. I wonder why she didn't mention the cigarette stand right by the registers. OH NO! the evil stuff is everywhere in Wal-Mart! There is NO escape! Maybe the things you said to her will sink in and she'll wake up..................NAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! We know better.

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Until the antis put a sign in their front yard that says they don't own guns, they are riding on the shirt-tail of the safety that we provide by owning them.
 
The Gun Case at the Wal-mart where I live is supervised by a man who has to use a wheelchair. He is an extremely pleasant fellow and I am happy that he is able to have a job even though he is disabled. I think Wal-mart is a family store promoting good values. 'Feh' on that woman.

Like Dennis said. Its a culture war on the children. Here in NY state the antis tried to pass a law that would keep children out of gun shows and gun shops. FIGHT BACK! VOTE! and SEND THOSE LETTERS!
 
Hey, I got carded at Walmart this morning, purchasing a box of .44 Mag. ammo. I guess I look young for a 26 year old. Now mind you, the clerk said they have to do it now, he told me about a 15 year old who tried to buy some 9mm, could not so he sent a drunk in to do it for him. Sounds like the clerk needs to wake up. Should I go in the store in uniform next time, you think I will still get carded? ARGHHH
 
I'd have to tell this woman that a gun, to me, and perhaps others here, is as natural as it is to her to check out those (in a whisper)underthings. Perhaps seeing those things offend me. Furthermore, if she doesn't think that Walmart, like most other sellers of anything, don't sell sex, then she is a few cards short of a deck!

It's this kind of underwhelming intelligence we have to fight with logic, and it really burns me up that we could eventually --- I bloody well refuse to think it!

If mother's milk is brainfood, this woman's kids are in deep poopoo.
 
I don't know about your kids but I know if I brought mine to a store and there was a choice of looking at real guns or looking at toys, she would pick toys in a heartbeat. They don't sell guns in the Walmarts by me but if they did, I would have no problem. Maybe the kid would actually see that guns are not toys, like someone above said, the toys aren't locked up but the guns are. Do these moms think the shiny guns will turn their kids into Damien Omens? Lets get real, if they sell guns at Walmart kids will NOT be able to purchase them. Im going to call and show Walmart my support. Lets hope that mother doesn't take her kid into home depot there are evil tools EVERYWHERE in that store ;) and they aren't locked up :)

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We are as one as we all are the same fighting for one cause -Metallica
 
I heard or read somewhere that Wal-Mart has basically 3 layouts and all stores fit one of the three...apparently its based upon climate/local activity habits. I'm in Central Calif and we have most of the year for outside activities.

My local WM has a garden center...basically an attached nursery...all garden stuff: tools, plants, chemicals, etc....then there is a big doorway without a door leading into the main store...along this part is garden/outdoor furniture/BBQ/kiddie pools. Go right and there are pet supplies, then the wall. Go left...outdoor kid stuff (swing sets, tetherball kits)transition into toys, transition into sporting goods transition into camping transition to hunting/fishing transition into boating stuff then into auto supplies.

I happen to think that the layout makes perfect sense. All this stuff is on the far wall of the store and with enter/exits for the garden and the auto stuff. As well, if you buy a gun or ammo....you must pay for it in sporting goods and then exit the store.
Brierley thinks there is an evil conspiracy because the rest of the world doesn't operate by her distorted view.



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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
Search on me for a thread on the pornographying of guns that I wrote.

I argued that folks who say buy guns only at a local gun store contribute to the marginalization of firearms to the world of loons.

Kind of like my other thrust that makes people crazy (like drop the conspiracy talk when it is a little bit nuts).
 
Miss D- I think it would be helpful to her if you were to tell her she doesn't have to hit the "Enter" button each time she gets to the end of a line of typing.
Otherwise I don't hold out much hope of doing
anything useful with her.
 
Huke hit it on the head.

It's too much trouble for her to teach her child to be safe in the real world; everyone else in the world should simply change their lives to conform to her idea of a nice way to live and then such Herculean efforts as teaching her child not to play with real guns won't be necessary.
 
I can not help quoting the all knowing, all seeing philosopher, Bugs Bunny. "What a maroon!"

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"
 
Wal-Mart shopping list:
Bread
Milk
Shirt
Socks
Engine oil
.357 mag. ammo
New shotgun
Dog Food
Rake

One stop shopping for all your family's needs. Works for me! :D

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