EAA Web Creators are Idiots

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Drakejake

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I continue to check on the European American Arms web site to learn something about the Witness polymer compact .45. But the people who created this site are complete idiots. It is almost impossible to learn anything for sure about this pistol from the way the info is presented.

I know this pistol has been discussed before , but I want to re-raise two issues:

1. Is this pistol reliable? Jamming has been reported in the past.

2. How does the gun switch from double action/ single action to single action/cocked and locked operation without a decocker. To carry double action do you have to lower the hammer manually?

Thanks to those who have experience with this pistol.

Drakejake
 
They are quite new but I havent heard anything bad....mostly
good reports. Pretty much same gun as the Eagle poly and
Charles Daly dda....the frame is made by "BUL" and has a solid reputation. You can even get them in colors....OHHHHH!
They are comfortable to handle and seem well balalced. I would
like to shoot one or two.....

Shoot well
 
I don't have any personal experience with polymer Witnesses, but the steel framed Witness I have is garbage (I'll just say I received a lemon, and EAA is too incompetent to repair it).

As for the polymer Witness .45acp, Gun Tests gave it an over-all poor rating a few years back due to the exact same problem my .40S&W Witness has, chronic FTF issues.
 
Yeah, Guntests panned it. But they also panned the Walther P99 in one issue and then praised it in another. Their methods for evaluating bullet balistics and performance were severely trounced by those "in the know". I'm sorry you got a bad EAA. I've owned three in the past and still own two (full size and compact steel) and both function perfectly.

In fairness, the Compact did misfeed when I got it, so I sent it back. Now it fires perfectly everything I send into it. The fullsize has never failed to feed or extract regardless of the cartridge. Both are .45 ACP, by the way. For $245 on the first and $275 on the fullsize, I'd have to rate them very highly. More accurate and reliable, I might add, than a Colt 1991a1 I used to own.

To each his own, of course, and I'm sorry your .40 didn't do what you would have liked. My .45's are great.

Davis
 
"I'll just say I received a lemon, and EAA is too incompetent to repair it)."

Same experience, different gun, with EAA.
 
Believe what you will. They are not "pretty crappy" at all. The choice, of course, is yours and how you proceed with your purchase is important. There are a multitude of pleased EAA owners, a great many who post on this board, who would beg to differ with the notion of being "crappy." Their website stinks and I generally refer to mine as "Tanfoglios" rather than Witnesses because of that.

However, I'm one who follows the notion that the Name Brand does not necessarily denote a thing. In the city in which I live, the EAA is on the official carry list for police officers. Amazingly enough, the roughly 30% who carry and qualify with theirs don't seem to complain much. You'll get plenty of people who bash Glock here as well.
 
I have an EAA Witness Sport Long Slide. Its fast becoming my favorite .45, gaining on a custom 1911A1 based on a Norinco.

It had a phonemenally crappy trigger, but a trigger job and a LOT of shooting has improved it dramatically. The basic CZ-75 design just fits me better than any other gun I shoot...

Witness seems to build great guns and crappy guns... but the basics are there, if you have patience.
 
I have a EAA .357 revolver. It was under $200 and shoots great. I am thinking of getting one of their semis.
 
Ah, but with the CZ-97 (I use .45ACP) nearly twice the price of the EAA, I'll just save the $245 and go with the Full-size (or compact, for that matter) Tanfoglio. Magazines are easier to get and the Witness/Tanfoglio safety works with hammer down as well as cocked and locked, which the CZ does not.

Doubtlessly the CZ-97 has a better trigger (though I disagree that it is finished nicer, the polycoating is not so great. Bluing is wonderful, however). However, the trigger on the EAA can be smoothed up nicely with a simple polishing of the wear surfaces (not messing with the sear at all, of course).

In the end, would I rather have a CZ-97b? Perhaps, even with the less attractive safety. However, my full size Tanfoglio Combat (EAA Witness) is every bit as reliable as any CZ product, and FAR more customizeable (will be adding a 10mm slide this summer if the budget allows).

I'll grant that some have had troubles with EAA's. I'll even grant that the EAA is more likely to give trouble than the CZ. However, the CZ does not carry a lifetime warranty and if it means paying half price, saving nearly $300 bucks, I've no problems taking a chance that I'll have to send it back to the factory. Besides, chances are that I won't. :D
 
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