E-fingerprint cards; FBI, concealed carry permits/licenses....

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ClydeFrog

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I was looking over a local city website & read a interesting item on the PD's section.
It stated; as of 04/01/2012, the FBI & the state LE agency will no longer accept regular finger-print cards. They will only take the new E-fingerprint(electronic) fingerprint format.
I have no issue with using the new E-fingerprint system but I didn't know the FBI & other state law enforcement agencies were phasing out the ink/old style for gun licenses/carry permits by formal mandate.

Clyde F
 
Florida no longer accepts paper applications for the CCW. Fingerprints, photo, and all the "paperwork" is now completed digitally.

Back in 2001, after September 11, all of us with security clearances, even after having passed all the previous background checks, fingerprints, etc., had to redo everything digitally and the checks were redone in a digital world.
 
Texas requires the E-print submission now, too, but only for new applicants.
Renewals don't have to submit new prints, they just forward the previously-submitted prints, digitally, I suppose, to the FBI.

I have no problem with E-fingerprinting in general, but Texas uses only one vendor for the process, their offices are spread thin across the state, and it requires an appointment. Seems like quite a hassle to me.

Walter
 
New Jersey requires the e-prints for the background check for the FOID card. Then when they called me to come pick up my card, they fingerprinted me. :confused:
 
What scares me is the merging of data files by the governments (Federal and State), including the new revelation that virtually every auto in the country has been photographed so that the government can determine, at least at one point, where every car was (with the license plate to track the owner). Maybe some on this forum do not think about how fragile our 2nd Amendment rights are. A shift of one vote on the Supreme Court could mean that the 2nd Amendment is re-interpreted to mean a collective rather than an individual right. Despite concealed carry being legal, in one form or another, in all 50 states now, the portion of the population that really cares (those with licenses) is excruciatingly small, so that we might be only one Congressional vote away from losing much of the ground we have gained in the last 30 years. All of this digitalizing and data base building means that if we ever lose these rights it will be somewhat easy for the government to know just who to go to when seeking to take guns away from the people. To those who think that this is paranoid thinking, remember that the good loyal German Jews never could believe that their own government was determined to exterminate them.
 
No fingerprints required here in Maine. My permit doesn't even have my picture on it. It was actually printed on a typewriter at the town office. :D
 
+1 Vito ... the government knows far too much about each and every one of us; making everything digital just makes it easier to share the info ...
 
They've been converting ink and paper fingerprints into digital format for over 20 yrs, the hard way. Now they're just saving a tree and a dinosaur in the intermediate step.

You can get back at big brother by getting a digital foil hat.


Sgt Lumpy
 
I live in texas, i had to do the e-fingerprint thing. Had to go back and do it 2 more times because of my work ive got prints the machine cant quite read or so they say. My prints were already on file with my counties sheriffs office and the one next to it from when i was young, and with the dps i believe. It is the law in Texas that no two agencies are supposed to share such information and the chl division of the dps is considered an entity all its own.
 
When I upgraded my Indiana License to the lifetime in 2008, they were still using the old paper cards, but I think they may be using E-fingerprints now. When I applied for an Indiana Professional License earlier this year, I was fingerprinted electronically.
 
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