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I believe you are referring to the .380 ACP version of the P-07.

I don't believe these are imported into the United States. They are probably intended for countries where owning military calibers is illegal.

It is listed as a product on the Russian CZ website.
 
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Could one buy a CZ P-07 chambered in 9 Luger,and with parts create one chambered in .380 Auto?
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Don't know WHERE you'd be able to get the parts, as I doubt that they would be available from CZ-USA. You'd need a person or firm with a U.S. import license, willing to get them for you from Europe or the Czech Republic.

More basically, why go with .380 in a gun that is already as large as the 9mm version? If you really have to have a .380 gun of good quality, you should look at a used Beretta 84/Cheetah, a Browning BDA (basically a clone with very minor differences), or a new ATI MS380 or a new Bersa Thunder 380 -- all of which are solid guns.

Recoil in the 9mm version in the P-07 is quite modest and I doubt that you'll really notice a GREAT difference between 9mm and 9mm short (.380).

The 9mm ammo is arguably cheaper and available in greater variety, and there will be no added cost for the parts. Just a barrel, recoil spring, and several magazines would probably come to $300+, IF you could get them. That pain would be repeated if you ever needed to replace anything, or get extra mags, as no aftermarket mag makers will offer them or export them to the U.S.
 
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Wow, that's crazy. Didn't even know they made them in 380. I'm guessing you are not from USA? Those import laws sure are screwy. How's a bersa 380 allowed in the country when a glock 380 can't.
 
How's a bersa 380 allowed in the country when a glock 380 can't.
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I don't remember the actual points needed, but did copy down the things that were assessed. I have a CZ-85 Combat, and wondered about the adjustable sights and the lack of a firing pin block on that model. With the CZ-85 Combat, the lack of a firing pin block was offset by the addition of a click-adjustable rear sight. (Many .22s are a hard gun to get past the import restrictions.)

Here is the point system that controls handgun imports. It's intended to make the import of "Saturday Night Specials" very difficult. Guns made in the U.S. meet different standards. The non-imported Glock .380 would lose out on several counts...

  • Length: for each 1/4" over 6" - 1
  • Forged steel frame - 15
  • Forged HTS alloy frame - 20
  • Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) - 1
  • .22 short and .25 auto - 0
  • .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto - 3
  • 9mm parabellum and over - 10
  • Locked breech mechanism - 5
  • Loaded chamber indicator - 5
  • Grip safety - 3
  • Magazine safety - 5
  • Firing pin block or lock - 10
  • External hammer - 2
  • Double action - 10
  • Drift adjustable target sight - 5
  • Click adjustable target sight - 10
  • Target grips - 5
  • Target trigger - 2
 
Yeah, but since they're not made in the US, they have to meet more stringent criteria than guns made here. I don't know the details. They can only be imported for military and LEO applications.

(Don't know what they'll do when they decide to get rid of them, eventually -- but I haven't heard of them being used anywhere, yet.)
 
Walt. Thanks for the info. It was more of a rhetorical question. Doesn't make much sense. I guess to keep unsafe foreign junk guns out of the U.S. market. Idk
 
Doesn't make much sense. I guess to keep unsafe foreign junk guns out of the U.S. market. Idk
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That was the ostensible reason. In reality, it's just another way anti-gun politicians devised to restrict firearms. It may have cut the import of some unsafe foreign junk guns, but it kept out good quality along with the junk. It also stopped the import of the Walther PPK, a safe, high-quality, all-steel pistol.
 
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