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I'm a big fan of .22 magnum for small game hunting.
Never shot .30 Carbine, and am interested how it compares.
I've searched high and low on forums and videos, and can not find a good taste test between the two diverse rounds.
Can anyone with experience point a guiding finger towards how the two rounds compare?
 
Google is your friend,research each of the cartridges and their ballistic performances that will give you the information you're looking for.
 
30 Carbine is kind of like an expensive 22 mag. The M1 Carbines are fun to shoot, but generally not in the same accuracy class as most 22 mags. 30 Carbine is great fpr rabbit to coyotes, but not quite enough for deer. Given the choice between the two, I would opt for the 22 Mag.
 
This is comparing apples to oranges. There is a big difference in power. The 30 carbine puts out close to 1000 fps energy, the 22 mag puts out about 324 fps at the muzzle. I like the the 30 carbine, and I own one, but it is in the useless category. Too powerful for small game, but not enough punch for deer. I've shot bunnies with it, but they get torn up a little too much. I also have a 22 mag, and use solid points for squirrel, and rabbits.
 
checking out federal's ammo charts here is just a small comparison based on ATK factory ammo.

22 mag 50gr game shok
velocity at the muzzle 1530 FPS and drops down to 1197 by 100 yards
energy at the muzzle is 260 FTLBs and drops to 159 by 100 yards
wind drift is 4.7 inches at 100

30 carbine 110gr power shok
velocity at the muzzle 1990 FPS and drops down to 1197 by 100 yards
energy at the muzzle is 967 FTLBs and drops to 597 by 100 yards
wind drift is 3.5 inches at 100


add the fact that 30 carbine is reloadable and I would be more than happy to use it for varmints, self defense, deer hunting and just general plinking.
 
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The 30 carbine was designed as a military sidearm/self defense load. I personally wouldn't think twice about taking a deer with it, but shot placement is critical which is why I wouldn't recommend it for that purpose. I don't reload cause it's not fun chasing those iti biti casings.
 
coyota1 said
The 30 carbine was designed as a military sidearm/self defense load. I personally wouldn't think twice about taking a deer with it, but shot placement is critical which is why I wouldn't recommend it for that purpose. I don't reload cause it's not fun chasing those iti biti casings.

shot placement is critical with any cartridge!!! i have seen deer shot with large caliber rounds like 30-06 and 35 rem that ran for two days before the final kill shot was fired.

when I was poor back in the seventies I shot several deer to feed the family, (not proud of this but ya have to feed the babies) with a headshot using a 22mag. they never took a step before dying.

my point is any round is capable for deer if you have shot placement
 
I would say so. If it were legal in Michigan, I would head shoot deer with a wmr. I could count on it going down. Many hunters I have encountered don't even have their rifles sighted in properly. Then take bulky brisket shots, and watch them run into the thicket and die with out recovering them. I live in zone 3 shotgun only. I need to take an hours drive up north for centerfire rifle zone.
 
When I had a gunshop in the 90's a guy came in to buy 100. Rounds of 30/30. In four days of hunting he had fired sixty times with no dead or even wounded deer. I was astounded so I shot the rifle. The scope was so far off at forty yds I missed a 4x8 sheet of plywood!! He had put the scope on and never sighted it in nor even bore sighted it. I bore sighted it then dialed it in for him. Two days later he whacked a large buck with a single well placed shot. Its scary but I still think about the other hunters that were in danger but luckly not hurt.
 
I tried to talk friend into going to the bench and sight in his gun. He told me it was laser bore sighted at the guns shop, so there is no need. No shortage of ignorance.
 
I agree
I had a customer that hunted over twenty years without success and never sighted his shotgun in. Couldn't convince him to sight it in.
 
110 gr @ 2000 fps. Quite capable of taking deer at close range (up to 100yds). A bit much for squirrels and rabbits, but great for hogs and yotes at close range. Coupled with a 7 1/2" blackhawk, it makes an excellent tack driving pistol with flat (compared to pistol) trajectory. Both rifle and pistol are excellent SD. Ammo can be a bit costly, but easily reloadable. Be sure to get carbide dies.
Recoil is light. About the same as 9mm and less than 38 spcl.
 
I am asking because I own a carbine, and pigs are on the other side of the state, and are moving this way. I was under the impression that it wasn't enough gun for pigs, especially bores.
 
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