DSA FAL vs. Robinson M96

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I'm debating whether to get an SA58 or an M96. I've not had much experience with "battle" or "assault" rifles before. I like the idea of the larger caliber, but I watched the M96 video on the Robinson Armament site, and they were really able to fire that rapidly with very little kick. I guess it comes down to this: can the SA58 fire as rapidly as the M96? Also, is one more accurate or "sturdier" than the other? Thanks for the help.

I'd also appreciate any other comments that people who have actually fired one of these rifles would like to add.
 
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I have a DSA STG-58, and I love it. very sturdy, robust and sweet. I have no experience with the M-96, but it would have to work hard to beat the DSA FAL.

Mike
 
I have an M96 and have several FALs. I don't own a DSA-built FAL, but my FALs are of comparable quality to the DSA FALs I've handled.

If the main criteria is aimed rapid fire, the .223 M96 rifle will win, merely because it has less recoil and will be easier to get back on-target quicker.

Otherwise, I think the question comes down to which caliber you want to shoot.

The M96 and FAL have similar operating principles. The FAL is heavier and thus a bit "sturdier" but neither feel like "toy" rifles (like my AR-15 did - no flames). For the particular rifles I have, the M96 is slightly more accurate: around 1.2 MOA vs 1.6 MOA.

Neither have exceptional triggers, both having noticable creep.

Both can mount optics. For the FAL, you need to buy a $60-$90 mount from DSA that replaces the dust cover. It is made of machined aluminum and weighs almost 1lb. A scoped FAL is pretty heavy. When my full-length FAL was scoped, it topped the scales over 11lbs.

For the M96, you need to buy a $100-$200 mount from wither DDD&D (??) or Robinson Arms. I don't know how much it weighs, but probably round the same as the FAL mount, judging by overall volume of material.

Both rifles are "clean-running" in that the action does not get very dirty (as compared to an AR-15 - no flames). I rarely clean mine anymore. It is easier to clean the FAL reciver, however, since the dust cover comes off. The M96 receiver is not open like the FAL rec, so it is harder to clean.

One neat feature of the M96 is that the barrel drops right out in about 2 seconds, so you can get another carbine or full-length barrel, or even the "recon" kit, which has a shorter gas system.

If you have other particular questions, I can try to answer them.

-z
 
Thanks for the advice. I asked the same question at the FAL Files forum, and they pretty-much convinced me to get a FAL. Thanks for the opinions - they were appreciated.
 
Justin,

Asking the guys over at the FAL Files which rifle is best is kind of like going into a Baptist church and asking what religion is best. What did you expect them to say???? ;)

I have never fired an M96, but I do have a FAL. Compairing a .223 to a .308 is sort of apples and oranges. I think that these two rifles are among the best in their calibers. You may want to think more about which caliber is right for what you want and then there will be no decision to make. Just my $.02.

David
 
If you care about such things, a "shorty" FAL is going to only yield around 2500-2550fps muzzle velocity with surplus ammo for an 18" FAL. A 16" FAL should lose another 30-100 fps.

Another thing to consider than an 18" FAL is *really* loud.

-z
 
I did really have my mind set on the FAL a couple of days ago. I've been reading about "battle" calibers, and many people prefer .308 while other people say that .223 is practically as effective, and it's not as heavy to lug around. I figured that I'd probably enjoy the extra power behind a .308, and I'd enjoy it at a range more than a weaker .223. So, I still think I'll still go with the FAL - it doesn't seem like I would be disappointed with either, however. Again, thanks for all the advice.
 
I've got a DSA FAL . I love it . I have an AR also . I love my FAL .

The AR is the match "King" . ( fast reloads , quick handling )

I love my FAL...... Plain shooting injoyment
 
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