Drudge Reports Broward Found 500 Ballots / Many From Israel
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Drudge: Transcript of Broward County Demos Findng Votes for Gore
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SAT NOV 25, 2000 13:51:21 ET XXXXX
GUNZBURGER'S GALL: TRANSCRIPTS FROM BROWARD RECOUNT SHOW HUNT FOR GORE VOTES AS RACE TIGHTENS!
As Broward County elections officials pressed to finish their review of disputed presidential ballots, transcripts of the canvassing board recount sessions show member Suzanne Gunzburger, a Democrat [pictured left], blatantly hunting for more Gore votes!
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Gunzburger: I Can See The Light - If You Hold It Just The Right Way
JUDGE LEE: 5A 11 is a slight dimple on the spot. I have to try to remember these. Judge Rosenberg.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Cannot be ascertained with reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I disagree on this one because it's pushed more than a slight and there is light visible in the bottom. I've read some of the opinions that says when there is light visible that it is a punch for a candidate.
JUDGE LEE: I don't see it.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't see any light visible.
MR LICHTMAN (Democratic Attorney): Hold it up. I can see it from here.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Turn it around.
JUDGE LEE: You're right. You can see it. All right. I agree with the Commissioner, 5A 11 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1390 - 1391)
Gunzburger Changes Her Own Liberal Standards From Daylight To Dents
JUDGE LEE: 29C 3.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No clear intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: No. Wait. Let me look. The other votes are Democratic and I'm looking, there is a dent on the No. 3, and I would say it's a Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg. It remains an under vote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1432)
Gunzburger Caught Mishandling Ballots - Twisting And Bending Ballots Until The Light Shines Through
JUDGE LEE: Number three.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a clear vote for Gore. It's like a garage door.
MR CARROLL (Republican Attorney): I ask you not to bend the ballot, please.
GOVERNOR: Don't bend the ballot.
MR. POZZOVLI (sic) (Republican Attorney): You may not bend the ballot.
JUDGE LEE: I agree that's a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1516)
Gunzburger Is Seeing So Much Light, She's Seeing Spots (However, She's The Only One Seeing It)
JUDGE LEE: Moving on, moving on to 14J. There is only one disputed ballot, and it is number one.
MS. ANGULO: You mean 15J?
JUDGE LEE: No 14J. That was just 13.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: This is 14J dash one. No reasonable certainty on that ballot.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I believe I can see light on three sides, and it's a clear vote for Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I Agree with judge Rosenberg. That's an undervote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1504)
Gunzburger: Some Other Votes Are Democratic - Must Be A Gore Vote!
JUDGE LEE: 10A 1, no reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I haven't looked.
JUDGE LEE: I'm just stating my opinion, I'm sorry.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: The other races are Democratic. There is an indentation on that and I would vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1398 - 1399)
Gunzburger Defines Voter Intent Based On If They Voted For Another Democratic Candidate
JUDGE LEE: Precinct 5D. 5D only has one, and I believe it is 5D 1.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: On this one, I believe there is a discernible intent based on the following reasons: On 21, there was a Democratic vote; on 41, there was another attempt to vote for congress on 41, and it didn't get through, so that I believe this is a vote for Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with the Commissioner, 5D 1 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1436)
When Everyone Else Agrees There's No Reasonable Certainty, Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore
JUDGE LEE: Moving on to 21A, there is only one dispute. It's No. 4. I believe no reasonable certainty.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Well, it's pushed on Gore, but I don't think I'm going to have the votes on that, but I'm going to say it is a Gore vote, based on the rest of the ballot. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1405)
Even With A Clear Overvote - Recognized By The Other Two Members Of The Board - Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore
JUDGE LEE: Moving to Precinct 5H. One disputed ballot. It's ballot number 10. I don't what that's - - That's an overvote, clearly. That's an overvote.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Punched two numbers, three and eleven, in the presidential race.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Gore.
JUDGE LEE: No change to Precinct 5H. (Note: Canvassing Board made a determination that if two punches were present, and one of the punches was in a spot not occupied by a candidate (spot 1, or spots 12 and on), the vote would count for the candidate. If the second punch was in a spot occupied by another candidate (spot 2-11), it would be classified as an overvote.) (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1493)
Gunzburger Is Even Trying To Rationalize Bush Votes Into Gore Votes
JUDGE LEE: 17D, there is only one ballot disputed. It's 17D 2.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: They voted only in three races for congress and for Nelson, and I believe there is an intent to also vote, because in the bottom of that is a punch for Gore.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Gore?
JUDGE LEE: It's really a punch for Bush.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: If it's for anybody, it's Bush.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: You're right. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1438)
Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known
JUDGE LEE: G5
JUDGE ROSENBERG: (No Comment)
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out. I think it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also.
JUDGE LEE: So going back to this on, Judge Rosenberg, G5.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't think it's a reasonable certainty.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg on G5. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1489)
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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SAT NOV 25, 2000 13:51:21 ET XXXXX
GUNZBURGER'S GALL: TRANSCRIPTS FROM BROWARD RECOUNT SHOW HUNT FOR GORE VOTES AS RACE TIGHTENS!
As Broward County elections officials pressed to finish their review of disputed presidential ballots, transcripts of the canvassing board recount sessions show member Suzanne Gunzburger, a Democrat [pictured left], blatantly hunting for more Gore votes!
MORE
Gunzburger: I Can See The Light - If You Hold It Just The Right Way
JUDGE LEE: 5A 11 is a slight dimple on the spot. I have to try to remember these. Judge Rosenberg.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Cannot be ascertained with reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I disagree on this one because it's pushed more than a slight and there is light visible in the bottom. I've read some of the opinions that says when there is light visible that it is a punch for a candidate.
JUDGE LEE: I don't see it.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't see any light visible.
MR LICHTMAN (Democratic Attorney): Hold it up. I can see it from here.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Turn it around.
JUDGE LEE: You're right. You can see it. All right. I agree with the Commissioner, 5A 11 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1390 - 1391)
Gunzburger Changes Her Own Liberal Standards From Daylight To Dents
JUDGE LEE: 29C 3.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No clear intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: No. Wait. Let me look. The other votes are Democratic and I'm looking, there is a dent on the No. 3, and I would say it's a Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg. It remains an under vote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1432)
Gunzburger Caught Mishandling Ballots - Twisting And Bending Ballots Until The Light Shines Through
JUDGE LEE: Number three.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a clear vote for Gore. It's like a garage door.
MR CARROLL (Republican Attorney): I ask you not to bend the ballot, please.
GOVERNOR: Don't bend the ballot.
MR. POZZOVLI (sic) (Republican Attorney): You may not bend the ballot.
JUDGE LEE: I agree that's a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1516)
Gunzburger Is Seeing So Much Light, She's Seeing Spots (However, She's The Only One Seeing It)
JUDGE LEE: Moving on, moving on to 14J. There is only one disputed ballot, and it is number one.
MS. ANGULO: You mean 15J?
JUDGE LEE: No 14J. That was just 13.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: This is 14J dash one. No reasonable certainty on that ballot.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I believe I can see light on three sides, and it's a clear vote for Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I Agree with judge Rosenberg. That's an undervote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1504)
Gunzburger: Some Other Votes Are Democratic - Must Be A Gore Vote!
JUDGE LEE: 10A 1, no reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I haven't looked.
JUDGE LEE: I'm just stating my opinion, I'm sorry.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: The other races are Democratic. There is an indentation on that and I would vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1398 - 1399)
Gunzburger Defines Voter Intent Based On If They Voted For Another Democratic Candidate
JUDGE LEE: Precinct 5D. 5D only has one, and I believe it is 5D 1.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: On this one, I believe there is a discernible intent based on the following reasons: On 21, there was a Democratic vote; on 41, there was another attempt to vote for congress on 41, and it didn't get through, so that I believe this is a vote for Gore.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with the Commissioner, 5D 1 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1436)
When Everyone Else Agrees There's No Reasonable Certainty, Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore
JUDGE LEE: Moving on to 21A, there is only one dispute. It's No. 4. I believe no reasonable certainty.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No reasonable certainty.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Well, it's pushed on Gore, but I don't think I'm going to have the votes on that, but I'm going to say it is a Gore vote, based on the rest of the ballot. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1405)
Even With A Clear Overvote - Recognized By The Other Two Members Of The Board - Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore
JUDGE LEE: Moving to Precinct 5H. One disputed ballot. It's ballot number 10. I don't what that's - - That's an overvote, clearly. That's an overvote.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Punched two numbers, three and eleven, in the presidential race.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Gore.
JUDGE LEE: No change to Precinct 5H. (Note: Canvassing Board made a determination that if two punches were present, and one of the punches was in a spot not occupied by a candidate (spot 1, or spots 12 and on), the vote would count for the candidate. If the second punch was in a spot occupied by another candidate (spot 2-11), it would be classified as an overvote.) (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1493)
Gunzburger Is Even Trying To Rationalize Bush Votes Into Gore Votes
JUDGE LEE: 17D, there is only one ballot disputed. It's 17D 2.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: They voted only in three races for congress and for Nelson, and I believe there is an intent to also vote, because in the bottom of that is a punch for Gore.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: Gore?
JUDGE LEE: It's really a punch for Bush.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: If it's for anybody, it's Bush.
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: You're right. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1438)
Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known
JUDGE LEE: G5
JUDGE ROSENBERG: (No Comment)
COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out. I think it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also.
JUDGE LEE: So going back to this on, Judge Rosenberg, G5.
JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't think it's a reasonable certainty.
JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg on G5. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1489)
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If it weren't so appalling...
...then this'd be getting funny right about now. I mean these scams are getting as transparent as your kid brother's first attempt at a backyard magic show; you can see the thread running from his sleeve to the piece of tape on the back of the five of clubs, yet ol' Enviroweenie Al just looks you somberly in the face, sure that he's got you baffled as to how he just knows he's gonna win the election.
I guess the ballot box that materialized from the ether back on the 8th or 9th must've been stuffed inadequately. Necessitating the sudden flurry of *surprise!* ballots from Israel! Hey! Presto! Now, riddle me this: Americans abroad in Israel were given an extension to return their ballots due to the tension and violence in the area, but armed forces personnel in the Persian Gulf were denied the right to vote (allegedly, many were not even delivered absentee ballots). The official reason for disenfranchising those who put themselves in harms way that we may sleep safe? Why, the tension and violence in the area made for unreliable mail connections, of course...
...then this'd be getting funny right about now. I mean these scams are getting as transparent as your kid brother's first attempt at a backyard magic show; you can see the thread running from his sleeve to the piece of tape on the back of the five of clubs, yet ol' Enviroweenie Al just looks you somberly in the face, sure that he's got you baffled as to how he just knows he's gonna win the election.
I guess the ballot box that materialized from the ether back on the 8th or 9th must've been stuffed inadequately. Necessitating the sudden flurry of *surprise!* ballots from Israel! Hey! Presto! Now, riddle me this: Americans abroad in Israel were given an extension to return their ballots due to the tension and violence in the area, but armed forces personnel in the Persian Gulf were denied the right to vote (allegedly, many were not even delivered absentee ballots). The official reason for disenfranchising those who put themselves in harms way that we may sleep safe? Why, the tension and violence in the area made for unreliable mail connections, of course...
Ballot Story Bogus???
I've seen this story ( 500 new ballots discovered ) in a couple of places, but the Internet is without any follow-up. Should this story be real, I would think that many folks in the media would be closely following the counting of these votes from Israel. On the other hand, maybe they looked at the ballots and they were mostly military. Maybe they were hidden away to void the military vote. Something isn't right. This story must be in part, or in full..full of it!
I've seen this story ( 500 new ballots discovered ) in a couple of places, but the Internet is without any follow-up. Should this story be real, I would think that many folks in the media would be closely following the counting of these votes from Israel. On the other hand, maybe they looked at the ballots and they were mostly military. Maybe they were hidden away to void the military vote. Something isn't right. This story must be in part, or in full..full of it!