Dreaming of a 9mm S&W Scandium revolver

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HerrJaegermeister

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Wouldn't it be great if S&W would make a 9mm lightweight revolver with their scandium frame and titanium cylinder. The revolver could be quite short. It should have more oomph than a .38 Special without the punishment of .357 Mag.

With moon clips, loading would he very fast. In six shot, it would be an ideal carry piece.

Just dreaming
 
Yes, I agree...that would be nice. I'd kinda like to see it offered with a hammer as well as hammerless. Loaded with Winchester Ranger "T" series 127 gr. +P+, it would be excellent IMO. :)
 
That would be great I agree because it would take some length off of the gun. Some of that 9mm +P+ ammo is almost up there with a full power .357. Heck Corbon's stuff is right there too. Great idea.
 
Yup, that WOULD be cool, but only after they come out with a 13-15 (or more) shot N-frame .22 revolver.
DAL
 
Good idea, Herr J . . . S&W used to do all kinds of goofy limited runs for Lew Horton's. I know there might not be enough interest in the 9x19 revos to warrant keeping one in the product line full time, but there's a definite cult following for the chambering. Who knows? Maybe someday.
 
:rolleyes:
Sam
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Alot of the +P+ 9mm ammo is about 470ft/lbs muzzle energy.

Most of the most powerful factory .357 loads are around 580ft/lbs with some special loads at 700ft/lbs.

I don't think that's so much of a difference and certainly nothing to roll your eyes at when you take into account 9mm's higher capacity clips.

The medium velocity .357's are around 400 ft/lbs btw.
 
Psycho, I chrono'd many .357 loads from a 3" barrel, the 2" barrels were not available back then, and you are correct. The Corbon 115 gr 9mm beat all but the hot 125gr .357 loads. It might lose hands down out of a 2" barrel. The .357 needs the long barrel to burn the powder to generate those published velocities, the 9mm does not.
 
9mm revolvers

I picked up a 940 S&W 2" SS recently and it's a pleasure to shoot. The round allows lots of cheap practice to my time at the range. It has more heft than some like but I'm good as is.

I would buy a lighter 9mm snubby if I needed it for back packing or CCW. Meanwhile the 940 was a real find. Now I'm looking for other revolvers in 9mm. They're out there, just slow to find.
 
:rolleyes: :D Actually, even the Corbon will get waxed in this competition IMO and experience.
Snubbies with 2" barrels chrono out 125gr Full House loads at 400 PFE..some are + that.
With the 9mm Corbon hitting its 1350 FPS it still needs barrel length...at least 4" for a good burn. Thats from a completely sealed barrel too.
If you shoot it from a Snubbie with a forcing cone/cylinder gap you loose valuable pressure and have 2" to push..just like the
357 does. I saw a 940 chrono +P 115's and crested 300 FPE..
Corbons may get a little more than that as they are one of THE 9mm rounds and so may some other guns as all chrono differently.
With the exponential rate of acceleration, your cutting alot of velocity of both calibers. For more power in a pocket gun, you have a 357 snub and a pocket 40 s/auto. Both are within a sneeze of each other for energy created.
Now, I will agree heart and soul that Id jump on the 9mm Scandium bandwagon...the 38+P just doesnt do it for me and as well as some are with a 357 snubbie, anyone would be better at follow up shots with the 9mm...especially from the fly weight gun.
Great Idea and IMO it deserves further consideration by a good gun maker...S&W or other wise.
Shoot well
 
Cool would be a Titanium bodyguard with HiViz front sight. Capable of handling a multitude of .38/.357/.380/9mm rounds like the earlier "Medusa". Now that would be flexible.
 
The thing that irks me though about the 9mm revolver idea is that if you put a 9mm and a .38 special case side by side, it's obvious that if a manufactor wanted to load a hot .38 they could easily exceed any 9mm just because of the extra case length. But the ammo manufactors are afraid to hotly load .38 because of the old .38 junk guns floating around that can't even handle .38 +P much less a .38 loaded to .357 velocities.
 
I don't even think though that a .357 produces any kind of punishment even in the lightweight titanium models. I have a Taurus 415T (titanium) .41 magnum that I shoot 210 and 250 grain with and a .357 titanium is NOTHING compared to it. I can rapid fire the .41 accurately, though it can get a little jumpy after 100 rounds or so. For a woman a lightweight .357 would probably be too much oomph, but guys, come on, give me a break.
 
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