Double stack Kahr 9mm ???

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meanmotorscooter

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I've been dreaming of a 15+1 4" barrel Kahr 9mm for years now. I don't think Kahr is ever going to make it. Is there anything out there that replicates or comes close to the Kahr trigger with these specs?
 
Is there anything out there that replicates or comes close to the Kahr trigger with these specs?
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The trigger alone keeps most of the DA's from replicating the feel of a Kahr. I went with them over other brands for the same reason, so you will have to make some sacrifices I guess.
 
The main advantage of the Kahr is that it is FLAT. Double stack it and you lose it among the herd of sawn off WIDE service pistols.

If you just must, I once shot a S&W DAO that was equal or better to the Kahr trigger. I don't know if they made it in a compact model, though. A DAO 469 is what you would be looking for.
 
IMHO the Kahr trigger is not a great asset in a duty gun. It is not a quick as most other triggers available with that long reset. A double stack Kahr may be very hard to produce because of the odd feed system and those funky followers.

No thanks. A fat Kahr loses it's positive traits and becomes a gun I wouldn't want. If I need a large mag I have a plethora of choices. Some guns are meant to be thin. Kahr is one of them. It's why they exist. :cool:

Sig and HK offer DAO triggers. Maybe one of them would be to your pleasure. Sphinx triggers are the closest to a Kahr I've yet to shoot.
 
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The trigger alone keeps most of the DA's from replicating the feel of a Kahr.
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Kahrs are not double action. Its more similar to Glocks M&Ps and XDs. Seems Logical to look @ those if one was looking for a double stacked kahr.
 
For me, the ONLY advantage of a Kahr is that it's a compact single-stack; I hate the long trigger and I hate the equally long reset. And I know many shooters agree with me, which is probably why Kahr doesn't make any full-size pistols.

Also, I've heard enough first-hand accounts of technical failures from Kahr owners that I wouldn't buy a Kahr even if it had a good trigger.
 
Venom1956 said:
Kahrs are not double action. Its more similar to Glocks M&Ps and XDs. Seems Logical to look @ those if one was looking for a double stacked kahr.
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Yes, technically Kahrs aren't DAO, but their trigger feels just like it is. Glocks, M&Ps, and XDs all have a much different trigger feel than a Kahr with a shorter pull and a much shorter reset. If you like the Kahr trigger it doesn't make any sense to look to those pistols.
 
Im going to disagree with Theo here. I have 2 Kahr pistols and i like em.:eek:

I dont shoot them as well as a Glock (my EDC) or a 1911. I shoot a crisp breaking trigger better and faster. The Kahr is more like a revolver trigger. It can be shot well but takes more work.

I do agree that the main advantage of the Kahr is the SMALL size. I carry my little Kahr when i cant conceal my G19. Its almost the size of a 380 but with 9mm horse power (:cool:)
 
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Im going to disagree with Theo here. I have 2 Kahr pistols and i like em.
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Good, I was starting to think we agree too much! :D

But I guess my point is just that most people shoot shorter triggers like on the Glock better than longer triggers like on the Kahr, but the Kahr excels in offering a very small .380-sized carry gun in 9mm. So maybe we agree after all. Damn!
 
Jim Watson said:
...I once shot a S&W DAO that was equal or better to the Kahr trigger. I don't know if they made it in a compact model, though. A DAO 469 is what you would be looking for.
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The DAO's would be 3rd-gen, whereas the 469 was 2nd-gen.

You're after the 6946 (compact 12+1 alloy frame), 5946 (full-size 15+1 steel frame), or 5943 (full-size 15+1 alloy frame). The 5943 is arguably the closest to meanmotorscooter's mythical Kahr.

FWIW like Kahrs, 3rd-gen DAO Smiths lack second-strike capability. S&W redesigned the trigger mechanism with some preload to yield a shorter and lighter stroke; it's not merely a standard DA/SA Smith trigger with the single-action stage disabled.

Glad I could help. :D
 
I have always thought the Kahr trigger felt like I was shooting a nice double action revolver, and since I like to do just that, I like the Kahr.

The only trigger (on a semi-auto) I can think of which feels like the Kahr is perhaps the SIG 250. While I no longer have the SIG to compare to the Kahr, I remember it also felt like I was shooting a nice double action revolver.

But the SIG is bigger that the Kahr.

Bart Noir
 
If the OP actually wants a DAO trigger that feels like a Kahr, I'd look into a DAO Beretta. Venom1956 and I found two beat up DAO Berettas at a Gander Mountain and they actually had pretty amazing DAO triggers. That or a Sig 226 might match a Kahr and still have DA, but it's DA/SA. Yes, I realize that Kahrs are not true DA, but the OP wants double-stack with a Kahr-like trigger, which would be DA/DAO.
 
Although it is hammer fired, the sig p250 is double stacked and has a long and smooth trigger revolver like trigger pull... Illini
 
I think i would have to agree that the SIG P250 is about as close as you are going to come to that double stack Kahr. However, I also would agree that double stacking a Kahr would lose what makes it desirable. I have a CM9 that I carry more than any other. It is a phenomenal, easily carried piece...love that thing. The trigger is smooth and easy work, and very nice for safe carry when concealed. In 9mm, it is the size of a Glock 42.
Adding bulk just puts Kahrs in the same realm as a dozen other options.
 
The long trigger/long reset is actually the reason I'm considering a Kahr for CC over its competitors. It's a matter of preference, but I don't like the short, light trigger pull in a carry gun - it feels too much like carrying condition zero, even if I consciously know that it's mechanically a DA. While I'd prefer DA/SA, the long, smooth Kahr trigger is acceptable to me.
 
S&W 6906 converted to DA only is best bet to meet those reqs
Or 6946 in their short DAO pull(like a DAK Sig but better)


Don't worry about "second strike". If you have a dud, strip round out and move to next one. Second strike is a marketing term to describe a byproduct of a design, not a purposely designed feature.
 
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