Does anyone remember?

Does anyone remember and/or know what happened to that Illinois man who was dead set on going down town (where-ever down town was) with his loaded pistol or rifle to "prove" his 2nd ammendment rights?

I did hear that he was arrested prior to his armed march on some "other" charges but I never heard and end or update of the story. Anyone know what became of him?
 
First post, no e-mail=TROLL. ;) Just had to do it but no I haven't kept up with that story either. Anyone, anyone, Bueller....
 
The cops picked him up the morning he was supposed to do it at his job, ( he worked at a school ) - in his car he had a couple of guns so they say and they arrested him for weapon on school property. He wasn't in his car at the time of arrest only his guns were alledgedly, haven't heard much since then
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HukeOKC:
First post, no e-mail=TROLL. ;) Just had to do it but no I haven't kept up with that story either. Anyone, anyone, Bueller....[/quote]

HukeOKC, I'm no troll, just a bit of a privacy nut. Since I usually haunt another online bbs forum, I was just looking for this info as was referred here by a poster on that forum. Thanks all for the help, that's the last I remember and I was wondering if a 2nd ammendment rights court case was pending in the Illinois courts?
 
Guys, I recommended him to this forum to answer his question (earlier today). Do we treat newcomers like this? Certainly not.

So how about a bit of fellowship.

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Awww.....come on now....HukeOKC said that with a smile......lighten up guys.
AmericanFreeBird2, welcome to TFL, glad to have ya, pull up a chair, grab a Shiner and stay awhile. :)

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Well, after I got my user name straightened out (thanks sysop), I decided that I'd leave my email exposed to public view, I hate the thought but the PTB probably already have me on several of their @#%@# lists.
 
AFB,

His name was Shoemaker.

go view www.illinoismilitia.org

but i don't know if they've talked about it since.

IIRC, about half of us here at TFL called him an idiot :mad:

and about half were going to call the police and tell them, "not to shoot him, or else."

btw... http://www.illinoismilitia.org/equipmentlist.html

I like these guys!!! :D

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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
http://www.thehawkeye.com/daily/stories/ln170620.html Militia may proceed with protest

By Stephen A. Martin
The Hawk Eye

• Court: Roughed up, jailed and unemployed, Shoemaker makes his first court appearance.

GALESBURG, Ill. -- Members of the Western Illinois Militia say they may carry out a planned demonstration
today even though authorities have jailed their leader.

Militia member Trent Lawrence said other members of the self-styled group may go through with the armed
protest Dan Shoemaker said he'd planned to conduct on the public square.

"Or we may wait a week," he said. "And Galesburg may not possibly be the right spot."

Shoemaker was arrested Thursday morning and charged with nine felony counts for alleged threats against
Knox County Sheriff James Thompson and Galesburg Police Chief John Schlaf. Three more felony charges
were filed after a search of his car outside an Abingdon, Ill., school reportedly turned up firearms, and a
misdemeanor charge of resisting arrest was filed Thursday morning.

Three additional charges await Shoemaker in Warren County involving alleged threats against Sheriff Richard
"Floaty" Hart.

Shoemaker, sporting a blackened left eye and a 3-inch gash on his forehead, made his first appearance in
court Thursday.

Circuit Judge James Stewart read Shoemaker the charges and appointed Public Defender James Harrell to
represent the nationally known author of the "U.S. Militiaman's Handbook."

Shoemaker was soft spoken as he listened attentively to the judge and to a description of the evidence
presented by Knox County State's Attorney Paul Mangieri. While the judge advised him not to make
statements until he has had the opportunity to consult with his attorney, he did indicate he took issue with
the prosecutor's version of events.

"There are differences I have with what was stated," he said.

A sheriff's department employee said Thompson suffered a "slightly separated shoulder" while a deputy
suffered a "bruised knee." Both were on duty as usual Friday.

Shoemaker, who needed 20 stitches after the arrest, called attention to the seemingly lopsided score and
asked about the arresting officer.

"Did he have any marks on him?" he said.

Security was tight around the courthouse. Three armed deputies in body armor and tactical gear escorted the
handcuffed militia chief into the courtroom while four other deputies with guns at their hips stood at various
points.

Outside the courtroom, several other armed officers patrolled the hallways and one deputy armed with a fully
automatic M-16 assault rifle stood guard outside the main entrance.

In spite of the measure, however, Lawrence and fellow militia member Richard Reeves -- both of whom are
known to authorities as part of the militia group and whose pictures appear on the militia's Web site -- said
they were able to enter and leave the courthouse with ease.

They also made light of a policy that requires the general public to submit to a metal detector while some
said the measures authorities are taking simply prove the point Shoemaker wanted to make.

The two said the protest, intended to coincide with the anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill, was to be a
peaceful demonstration even though Shoemaker said he'd be armed with a semi-automatic assault-style
weapon as he walked around the square.

It's an act they said is legal in nearly half the American states, as long as the weapon remains in plain view.

In Illinois, however, it's a crime for a private citizen to carry a functioning firearm within a city. They say the
law is unconstitutional, and the protest was meant to demonstrate the disconnect between state law and what
is supposed to be the nation's highest legal document.

Now, Reeves said, Shoemaker is in jail while a deputy stands on the courthouse lawn with a weapon of war.

"Why is that man morally superior to Dan Shoemaker to stand there with an M-16?" he said.

While the man who has publicly described himself as the head of the militia since 1995 remains in jail, the
two said Kenny Butler of rural Oquawka, Ill., is in charge of the group estimated at 50 to 200 members.

They said they are under orders not to attempt a raid on the jail to release their leader.

Mangieri said in court Shoemaker threatened authorities by telling them in personal conversations and in
writing he would resist if police or deputies were to attempt to detain him while he mounted his protest. The
prosecutor said he told them they shouldn't try to arrest him because they wouldn't want to turn their
communities into "a smoking battlefield."

Shoemaker indicated he does not have the financial means to hire a private attorney, saying as of Friday he
is no longer employed by the Abingdon school district where he had worked as a custodian.

The judge added another $300,000 to Shoemaker's $1 million bond for the weapons charges and the charge
of resisting arrest, meaning he would now have to raise $130,000 in cash to be released. Even if he did, he
still faces active warrants in Warren County and another $1 million bond there.

Reeves described the charges as "trumped up" and questioned allegations the weapons Shoemaker had in
his car weren't stored in accordance with the law.

He said Shoemaker regularly unloaded and cased his weapons while transporting them in his car, "as a
matter of safety, not as a matter of law."

While authorities seem to be treating their group as leaderless followers unable to act without Shoemaker,
Reeves said the militia is alive and well under Butler's command and awaiting the authorities' next move.

"The leadership of the militia is still intact," he said.
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