Guys,
Without wishing to push my luck on the status of the American legal system, this case has sat in my memory for a long time now and I was wondering if anyone knows any more details or even remembers it. Whenever I hear about a questionable police shooting incident, my first thought is always, "would I have been deemed justified to shoot in similar circumstances" read on and see what you think, this is an actual case.
I'll recount the story as best I can.
Officer A was an undercover Narco, over a period of months his behavior had become increasingly strange and many believed he was on the verge of some kind of episode. In spite of this, his malady had not caused him to be suspended or take sick leave.
His attitude towards his commanding officer whom we shall call Officer B had worsened and there was now open conflict between the two. Later in court, a witness gave testimony that Officer B had made the following statement in their presence "someone should take that f***er out and shoot him in the head".
Officer A was involved in an undercover surveillance operation and was due to be picked up by 3 other officers, including Officer B, in an unmarked car from his street lookout position. When they arrived, Officer A was smiling and drinking from a soft drinks container with a straw, Officer B later testified in court that Officer A appeared "on edge" although he made no mention of this in the vehicle at the time and none of the other officers noticed anything unusual.
On entering the rear of the vehicle, Officer A was seated diagonally behind his boss who was in the front seat, the car now being occupied by all 4 officers.
Officer B testified in court that Officer A smiled at him and mouthed the word "Motherf***er", but this was not noticed by any of the other officers. At this point, Officer B placed his hand on the butt of the S&W Model 10 snubbie that he had in his waist band holster, he did this in such a way that noone noticed the movement. Officer A placed his drinks carton between his knees and began to stretch in a "boy am I stiff" kind of way in the back seat, at which point Officer B drew his .38 and fired a single shot that hit Officer A between the eyes killing him instantly. Officer B then immediately asked all the other officers to surrender their weapons, he later claimed that this was merely in keeping with standard police practice.
The basis of the defence case was that Officer B believed that Officer A's movements indicated that he was about to draw his weapon, forensic tests confirmed that Officer A had not actually touched his weapon a fact not contested by either side, and that his prior mental state and erratic behaviour, mouthed obscenities and movements immediately prior to the shoooting were indicative of him preparing to shoot.
Various courtroom scenarios were presented by the defence team, one of which consisted of a court officer being given an unloaded weapon and then being told to fire the weapon when he believed the defence team's firearms expert (could have been Massad Ayoob - I'm not sure) could draw and shoot his own holstered weapon, the holstered weapon won every time. This then being used to justify firing against an undrawn weapon.
Officer B was duly acquitted.
Rather than make second guess judgements based on my scant recollections I just wondered if anyone has more details on this case. I often mull over the implications of this one and felt a need to share the circumstances, if not my thoughts on the incident.
Mike H
Without wishing to push my luck on the status of the American legal system, this case has sat in my memory for a long time now and I was wondering if anyone knows any more details or even remembers it. Whenever I hear about a questionable police shooting incident, my first thought is always, "would I have been deemed justified to shoot in similar circumstances" read on and see what you think, this is an actual case.
I'll recount the story as best I can.
Officer A was an undercover Narco, over a period of months his behavior had become increasingly strange and many believed he was on the verge of some kind of episode. In spite of this, his malady had not caused him to be suspended or take sick leave.
His attitude towards his commanding officer whom we shall call Officer B had worsened and there was now open conflict between the two. Later in court, a witness gave testimony that Officer B had made the following statement in their presence "someone should take that f***er out and shoot him in the head".
Officer A was involved in an undercover surveillance operation and was due to be picked up by 3 other officers, including Officer B, in an unmarked car from his street lookout position. When they arrived, Officer A was smiling and drinking from a soft drinks container with a straw, Officer B later testified in court that Officer A appeared "on edge" although he made no mention of this in the vehicle at the time and none of the other officers noticed anything unusual.
On entering the rear of the vehicle, Officer A was seated diagonally behind his boss who was in the front seat, the car now being occupied by all 4 officers.
Officer B testified in court that Officer A smiled at him and mouthed the word "Motherf***er", but this was not noticed by any of the other officers. At this point, Officer B placed his hand on the butt of the S&W Model 10 snubbie that he had in his waist band holster, he did this in such a way that noone noticed the movement. Officer A placed his drinks carton between his knees and began to stretch in a "boy am I stiff" kind of way in the back seat, at which point Officer B drew his .38 and fired a single shot that hit Officer A between the eyes killing him instantly. Officer B then immediately asked all the other officers to surrender their weapons, he later claimed that this was merely in keeping with standard police practice.
The basis of the defence case was that Officer B believed that Officer A's movements indicated that he was about to draw his weapon, forensic tests confirmed that Officer A had not actually touched his weapon a fact not contested by either side, and that his prior mental state and erratic behaviour, mouthed obscenities and movements immediately prior to the shoooting were indicative of him preparing to shoot.
Various courtroom scenarios were presented by the defence team, one of which consisted of a court officer being given an unloaded weapon and then being told to fire the weapon when he believed the defence team's firearms expert (could have been Massad Ayoob - I'm not sure) could draw and shoot his own holstered weapon, the holstered weapon won every time. This then being used to justify firing against an undrawn weapon.
Officer B was duly acquitted.
Rather than make second guess judgements based on my scant recollections I just wondered if anyone has more details on this case. I often mull over the implications of this one and felt a need to share the circumstances, if not my thoughts on the incident.
Mike H