Does anyone make a 1911 frame WITHOUT the grip safety cut?

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Christopher II

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Well, the subject says it all. I have weird hands or a weird grip index or something, and I generally have trouble deactivating the grip safety on a 1911. Extended/beavertail safeties do work better, but then my hand ends up too high on the gun. I'd rather just not deal with the whole mess. So, are there any custom/semi-custom makers out there who make a grip safety-less frame?

- Chris
 
nOT THAT i KNOW OF

But the boloster Molina copy of the 45 does not have one at all. Its just a copy through not a clone of a 1911. also have you tried one of the grip safty's with the enlarged "speed bump" on them they were made just for folks like yourself who have a hard time
activating the safty. You could always pin the thing. It was common to do so in the old days when lawers were not so prevlant in our society and a man took responsibility for his own actions instead of blaming others or objects.
 
Pinning it would be my only thought as well. The grip safety is the major access point to all the internal goodies. I can't see a pistol without the grip safty and still be a 1911. Perhaps buy a Hi Power?
 
Some years ago, there was a one-piece backstrap available, that integrated the mainspring housing and (fixed) grip safety. I remember seeing it advertised in Front Sight (USPSA publication), but never saw one on a gun.
 
Perhaps if you were really up for a customizing job, you could get a Ballester Molina and find a smith willing to turn it into a top of the line faux-1911 sidearm?
 
Buy a Hi-Power? Believe you me, there's nothing I'd like better. Thing is, I want to build up a 10mm gun, I won't buy an EAA Witness, and a Glock 20 is way too big. It seems like a 1911 platform is the only way to go. I like 1911s anyway, but...

Perhaps I should look into another type of extended grip safety. I just dislike having a gun with such an unnecessary canard hanging on it...

- Chris
 
Ahhhhh, a 10mm. Well, I doubt you'll bite but have you considered S&W? The 10mm Smiths are a breed apart. Many who do not care for S&W autos including myself at one time have given grudging respect to the 10xx series and even grown to like them. I carry the 1076 and it is the most reliable 10mm I have ever fired.
 
A now-defunct company called Arminex made a switch-caliber pistol called the Tri-Fire back in the 1980's. It's backstrap was an one-piece unit that integrated the mainsrping housing and what would have been a grip safety on the 1911. These units were sold seperately and would fit pre-Series 80 1911's. I recall seeing another outfit called Rescomp that offered a similar unit. I don't see it on their current website, but you could check with them http://www.rescomp.co.za/

I have trouble reliably depressing a 1911 grip safety when using a proper high-thumb grip. I have found that the grip safety with the "dorsal-fin" shaped speed-bump, that runs vertically up the back of the unit works fine for me. These are the sort of grip safeties that Colt used on the "XS" pistols. It is available from Caspian http://www.caspianarms.com/hrgs.htm

Rosco
 
AndABeer -

The S&W, huh? I'd be willing to give it a try, but I don't much care for pistols that don't have a consistant shot-to-shot trigger action. Maybe you could shoehorn a Model 52 trigger group into a 1076 frame... (hits self in head) "No, Chris, you're trying to do this on a budget..."

Rosco Benson -

My normal grip is a variant of the Brian Enos thumbs-forward grip, so I suspect we may have similar issues. I might take a look at the Caspian safety and give it a try. Thanks.

- Chris
 
I'd be willing to give it a try, but I don't much care for pistols that don't have a consistant shot-to-shot trigger action.
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Well alrighty then, go find a 1086 (4.25" DAO) or a 1046 (5" DAO).

I'm playing, I know Smith's aren't for everyone. I wish to heaven that I could go C&L with the 1076 or that Smith would put out the 945 in 10 but they have stopped returning my calls. And I do like the 1911 but I just haven't got one to be reliable in 10mm yet.
 
another platform suitable for the 10mm, that does away with the grip safety (but has a DA/SA trigger), is the ruger 90/97.

ruger originally designed the 90 for the 10mm cartridge (pressure and pounding), but chambered for the .45 only when the 10mm lost favor with the police community after the FBI fiasco. that is why it is likely the strongest .45 on the market

i believe bar-sto used to make a 10mm barrel for the ruger. the 97 is much more comfortable in the hand than the glock. might not be cheaper but lots stronger :eek:
 
The existing grip safety can easily be pinned so that it's permanently in the "fire" position. Any smithy can do it or you can do it yourself by drilling a small shallow hole in the top of the mainspring housing where it interfaces with the grip safety and inserting a short pin so that it keeps the grip safety depressed all the time. The mod is invisible (even with the grips removed) and easily reversible. Details are available in many home gunsmithing books.
 
I'll agree with ammo dave, just pin it. I have the same problem with both SV and STI wide bodied 1911's and I resolved it by pinning.
 
I second the S&W 10mm's. My 1006 is awesome! Accurate, reliable, and shoots like a 9mm 'cause it is so big and heavy. Not great for CCW, but anything else--woohoo!!:D :eek: :D
 
Grip safety or not, I would not consider the Balester-Molina as the base frame for a quality gun, as they are too soft. They are reliable and OK for moderate shooting, but not for heavy use or extended firing.

Jim
 
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