Do you use your semi auto rifle's safety?
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PreserveFreedom
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I keep the safety on on my Mini 14 if a round is chambered. The safety onthe Mini 14 is infront of the trigger guard. If it is engaged, it is inside of the trigger guard. When you place your finger in there to fire it, you can't help but feel it and just flick it back to the outside.
Edward429451
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If chambered, safety on, in brain too...
Its not "much more difficult" to release an M1a or Mini-14 safety, than on an AR. It may take an extra 1/4 second or so, which isnt critical...and if I thought it were to be critical a particular time, I'd simply not use the manuel safety and keep finger outside the TG.
But thats never happened yet.
Its not "much more difficult" to release an M1a or Mini-14 safety, than on an AR. It may take an extra 1/4 second or so, which isnt critical...and if I thought it were to be critical a particular time, I'd simply not use the manuel safety and keep finger outside the TG.
But thats never happened yet.
yankytrash
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All it takes is one trip on a vine under the leaves and you just blew your hand off. If I'm walking around my land, I might have a mag in, but the safety is on and no round is chambered.
If for some reason I thought I had to unsling my rifle, The sound of loading a chamber will send most trespassers flyin. Same goes for the home-defense pump shotgun.
I'd much rather give them the chance to run in fear than have to shoot. Once you raise that rifle, you're committed. Most guys think they have what it takes to pull that trigger; but when it comes down to it, most shooters are either going to freeze, or pull the trigger when it wasn't required. I'm not taking the chance that I may one of those guys.
And whose to say the trespasser isn't looking for his kids' lost dog?
If for some reason I thought I had to unsling my rifle, The sound of loading a chamber will send most trespassers flyin. Same goes for the home-defense pump shotgun.
I'd much rather give them the chance to run in fear than have to shoot. Once you raise that rifle, you're committed. Most guys think they have what it takes to pull that trigger; but when it comes down to it, most shooters are either going to freeze, or pull the trigger when it wasn't required. I'm not taking the chance that I may one of those guys.
And whose to say the trespasser isn't looking for his kids' lost dog?
yankytrash
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You shoulda ordered one of these:
As a lefty myself, I have yet to find a gun's safety my thumb couldn't reach!
But I think it's too late to order one now.
As a lefty myself, I have yet to find a gun's safety my thumb couldn't reach!
But I think it's too late to order one now.
My question is why would you want to be walking around with the weapon OFF safety?
In Vietnam the only person who sometimes had their weapon off safety was the point man but not always.
I believe you looking for an accident to happen with the safety off.
Be safe leave the safety on until you're ready to fire.
Turk
In Vietnam the only person who sometimes had their weapon off safety was the point man but not always.
I believe you looking for an accident to happen with the safety off.
Be safe leave the safety on until you're ready to fire.
Turk
If you stumble or fall, and the gun fires, the bullet will hit something. It may be something that doesn't matter, or something you very much don't want to hit, like your own foot, your car, or your house.
What are you expecting that you wander around with a loaded AR and the safety off? Are thousands of screaming terrorists going to attack? Are the Hell's Angels riding down on you on their hopped up Harleys? Are gangs of drug dealers going to attack you, AK's blazing?
Get real. There are few (read none) places in the U.S. where you can possibly need a weapon so fast that you can't flip off a safety. If there are such places, and you are in one of them, get out.
Jim
What are you expecting that you wander around with a loaded AR and the safety off? Are thousands of screaming terrorists going to attack? Are the Hell's Angels riding down on you on their hopped up Harleys? Are gangs of drug dealers going to attack you, AK's blazing?
Get real. There are few (read none) places in the U.S. where you can possibly need a weapon so fast that you can't flip off a safety. If there are such places, and you are in one of them, get out.
Jim
There are three ways I carry a rifle in the field...
1. Locked & Loaded saftey ON.
2. Unloaded chamber, mag inserted (or ammo) , saftey OFF.
3. action open, no mag inserted (or ammo), saftey OFF.
Saftey in head is always on, even when without a firearm.
If you know your firearm well, you can shoot JUST as fast if needed if the saftey is ON or OFF if there is a round chambered.
I even shot Sporting Clays starting with saftey ON, then setting it to OFF, when shouldering my shotgun to fire on the birds.
1. Locked & Loaded saftey ON.
2. Unloaded chamber, mag inserted (or ammo) , saftey OFF.
3. action open, no mag inserted (or ammo), saftey OFF.
Saftey in head is always on, even when without a firearm.
If you know your firearm well, you can shoot JUST as fast if needed if the saftey is ON or OFF if there is a round chambered.
I even shot Sporting Clays starting with saftey ON, then setting it to OFF, when shouldering my shotgun to fire on the birds.
A few years ago I read in the news paper about a kid who shot his father in the head because he tripped and his slung rifle went off. He had either forgotten to turn the safety on after loading, or didn't let the hammer down, I can't remember. But I think you get my point.
cuerno de chivo
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Don't almost all rifle safeties just prohibit moving the trigger so in essence almost all rifles are not "drop safe"?
Yanky, do you always chamber a round when you see a stranger on your land? Here in the South the gentlemanly thing to do is to hail the stranger and approach with your gun broken open over your forearm or if a bolt or a semi slung on your shoulder. Not every trespasser is a loose felon sneaking up on you.
Hi, Cuerno,
Let me see. On bolt action rifles, Winchester, Ruger and Mauser lock the firing pin independent of the trigger. Remington blocks the firing pin and the trigger. On semi-autos, the AR-15 type blocks the sear; the M1, M14, M1A and Mini-14 lock the trigger and the hammer. On some pump and semi-autos with cross-bolt safeties in the trigger guard, the trigger is blocked, but in some cases, it is one piece with the sear, so the sear is blocked also. So I think it is safe to say that most rifle safeties do not just block the trigger and are quite safe against firing if dropped as long as the safety is on.
Jim
Let me see. On bolt action rifles, Winchester, Ruger and Mauser lock the firing pin independent of the trigger. Remington blocks the firing pin and the trigger. On semi-autos, the AR-15 type blocks the sear; the M1, M14, M1A and Mini-14 lock the trigger and the hammer. On some pump and semi-autos with cross-bolt safeties in the trigger guard, the trigger is blocked, but in some cases, it is one piece with the sear, so the sear is blocked also. So I think it is safe to say that most rifle safeties do not just block the trigger and are quite safe against firing if dropped as long as the safety is on.
Jim
yankytrash
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No, absolutely not. Actually, the 6 trespassers I've run across so far were hailed with, "Ummahhh, can I help you?" The rifle never left my shoulder.
I was only stating my 'plan'. IF I thought a certain trespasser might be some sort of threat (ie, drunken hunters taking pot-shots at beercans nailed to trees - I've found the piles of beercans, the shot-up cans nailed to the trees, but luckily no shooters yet), my 'plan' is to find cover, hail the trespassers, make the *chkk* *chkk* sound.
There are never 'always', gentlemenly or not. Gentlemenly is a term better suited for TV and guys in white suits.