Do you think this round would work just as good as a .357 magnum 125 grrain bullet?

Yes, and either of them will wreck your hearing if you don't have protection. I prefer to keep a lower energy heavy subsonic round for HD.
 
those 135 gr noslers expand violently at that velocity and are not a bonded jacket so they tend to fragment and loose their jacket, as such they don't penatrate all that well.where as some of the 357 125gr bullets IE Speer golddots will expand violently and stay together ao penatrate better.

IMHO the 165 or 180gr Speer golddot is a much better SD load in 10mm
 
I thought the old 125 grain .357 magnum fragmented violently and this contributed to their success.
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It did.I also contributes to failures too.if it doesn't penatrate deep enough to hit vitals all the expansion and fragmentation will do little good.
 
I thought the old 125 grain .357 magnum fragmented violently and this contributed to their success.
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It did.I also contributes to failures too.
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Ok, I never heard any of this. Where did this information come from? I'm trying to understand this. So, the .357 magnums with 125-grain projectile, was successful because the bullet itself fragmented upon impact? And; the same fragmentation is what caused it to be unsuccessful, because the fragmentation didn't allow for proper penetration?

I was always under the impression that the .357 magnums with a 125-grain hollow point was successful because, it dropped so much energy upon impact, thus doing a lot of damage. I also understood that the velocity of the 125-grain hollow point out of a 357 magnum, is what allowed it to do so well against barriers, such as car doors, and windshields.

I've never heard of a 125-grain projectile, out of a handgun fragmenting in any way.

DBAR
 
with a bonded bullet it should be a really serious hit.

With all things considered, I'd put this cartridge, that velocity, that bullet weight, with a good weight retaining hollow point, as a great round for someone who can handle that intense round.

What I recall of that round when it came out was that it was not terribly user friendly. I didn't like it until it was loaded down some.
 
I was shooting some very high velocity .357, 130 grain bullets out of a N-frame Smith a while back. Another guy shooting a lightly loaded .44 was a bit irritated by the ruckus. That Double Tap ammo would be even more obnoxious. :eek:
I think spacecoast has a good point.
 
I've never heard of a 125-grain projectile, out of a handgun fragmenting in any way.
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the old Federal classic that garnered so much acclaim for 96% one shot stops actually quite frequently shed it's jacket. Now how do you get that 96% one shot stops with a higher failure rate you don't count the ones that more than one shot was fired.
 
This cartridge seems to be an attempt to re-engineer a 10mm into a 9mm with higher velocity. The biggest benefit of 10mm is the ability to shoot a heavy hollow-point (200+ gr.) at sufficient velocity to guarantee expansion.

No one makes a 7.63 Mauser or .30 Luger today, because speed alone doesn't do the job.
 
those 135 gr noslers expand violently at that velocity and are not a bonded jacket so they tend to fragment and loose their jacket, as such they don't penatrate all that well.where as some of the 357 125gr bullets IE Speer golddots will expand violently and stay together ao penatrate better.
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That is why I prefer the old fashioned Kieth style LSWC in 158 gr. It will penetrate, it will spread out some, it will drop its energy in the target, its accurate. Might not be the best whizz bang bullet out there but its been doing a good job for a lot of years and this old dinosaur isn't going to change unless somebody can prove to me their whizz bang bullet is remarkably superior.

Just my dos centavos
 
Dave,
You tend to try to do direct comparisons between bullets that can't be directly compared because they're not the same, in either construction or caliber.

Identical weights don't compare directly, even at identical velocities, even in the same caliber.
Identical, or near identical weights, between two different calibers won't compare directly, even at identical velocities.

Bullet construction (even hollowpoints differ greatly), bullet shape (flatnose, roundnose, jacketed, lead), and bullet width (caliber) all produce different results in terminal effects.

Many can be close, but asking if Load A in one caliber will perform like Load B in a totally different caliber is very difficult to answer accurately. Too many variables.
Denis
 
That is why I prefer the old fashioned Kieth style LSWC in 158 gr. It will penetrate, it will spread out some, it will drop its energy in the target, its accurate. Might not be the best whizz bang bullet out there but its been doing a good job for a lot of years and this old dinosaur isn't going to change unless somebody can prove to me their whizz bang bullet is remarkably superior.
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Sounds like a reasonable choice. Penetration is more than adequate, even if the bullet has to pass through an arm or some other light obstacle on its way to the BG's breadbasket.
No concerns about barrel length and achieving some "threshold velocity" for the bullet to function properly.... Dang it, I guess the ammo manufacturers will have to find some other way to separate you from your money.
 
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