Just bought a G22 with one factory high cap and a POS USA magazines high-cap (junk!!the base popped off when I was near loading the 15th round!!) Anyway, its time to go magazine shopping and I'm not sure if I should buy 1 high cap for $75, or 4 10 rounders for the same price. With a pistol as large as the G22, I feel that, by using 10 rounders and leaving a lot of empty space in the handle, I am not utilizing the gun's potential. On the other hand, I doubt ever being in a situation where I would need more than 10 rounds. What do you guys think? Is the extra money for high caps worth it to you?
Do you think Hi-Caps are worth it?
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usncorpsman
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Hi Piggy. It's your call but I would opt for the 10 round magazines. I have both a Glock 17 and a 19. Both new. I traded a factory rebuilt 19 for the new 19 to a dealer. The factory rebuilt came with a Glock 17 - 17 round factory magazine. It's cool of course.
However, if I can't do the job with 10 I'm afraid another 7 won't help. By then I'll be needing a heck of a lot of help!!
I have several 10 round mags for both pistols. I believe they are adequate. Especially since I carried a Colt Detective Special with 6 rounds before I bought the Glock 17. Good luck with your choices.
usncorpsman
However, if I can't do the job with 10 I'm afraid another 7 won't help. By then I'll be needing a heck of a lot of help!!
I have several 10 round mags for both pistols. I believe they are adequate. Especially since I carried a Colt Detective Special with 6 rounds before I bought the Glock 17. Good luck with your choices.
usncorpsman
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Piggy:
Just bought a G22 with one factory high cap and a POS USA magazines high-cap (junk!!the base popped off when I was near loading the 15th round!!) Anyway, its time to go magazine shopping and I'm not sure if I should buy 1 high cap for $75, or 4 10 rounders for the same price.
On the other hand, I doubt ever being in a situation where I would need more than 10 rounds. What do you guys think? Is the extra money for high caps worth it to you? [/quote]
I'd be very hard pressed to spend $75 on a magazine that costs about $20 to LE.
10 Rounders ought to do it nicely.
However, I do suggest you call Diane Feinstein's office (202 224 3121) and ask for your rebate. Or, take the difference between the prices off your taxes.
I've contacted my STATE representative about granting all CCW holders status to purchase HiCap magazines.
Just bought a G22 with one factory high cap and a POS USA magazines high-cap (junk!!the base popped off when I was near loading the 15th round!!) Anyway, its time to go magazine shopping and I'm not sure if I should buy 1 high cap for $75, or 4 10 rounders for the same price.
On the other hand, I doubt ever being in a situation where I would need more than 10 rounds. What do you guys think? Is the extra money for high caps worth it to you? [/quote]
I'd be very hard pressed to spend $75 on a magazine that costs about $20 to LE.
10 Rounders ought to do it nicely.
However, I do suggest you call Diane Feinstein's office (202 224 3121) and ask for your rebate. Or, take the difference between the prices off your taxes.
I've contacted my STATE representative about granting all CCW holders status to purchase HiCap magazines.
Peter M. Eick
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The hi-caps are sure worth it to me, but I do not use them often. Most of my hi-caps (and I have around 50 of them now) sit in a drum in sort of "cold storage" coated in CLP.
I looked at the problem this way. Hi-caps are expensive today, but consider what they will be like in say 10 years. By stocking mine away and using my 10 rnd ones for day to day use and such, I am storing a many decade supply of good magazines. Now, I do use my hi-caps, but only in my carry gun (of the day) and only when I am testing my carry ammo. Otherwise it is 10 rnds only.
When I pass my guns on to my kids, then they will have full capacity magazines in near pristeen condition to use, and not 10 (or less) rounders.
So, I know this is long winded, but what I do is surf the web, graze the gun shows and whenever I see a new (factory original or Mecgar) hi-cap mag for a gun I own or want, I pick it up. I then put a few magazines full of ammo through it and then retire it to the holding drum with a good oiling.
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I looked at the problem this way. Hi-caps are expensive today, but consider what they will be like in say 10 years. By stocking mine away and using my 10 rnd ones for day to day use and such, I am storing a many decade supply of good magazines. Now, I do use my hi-caps, but only in my carry gun (of the day) and only when I am testing my carry ammo. Otherwise it is 10 rnds only.
When I pass my guns on to my kids, then they will have full capacity magazines in near pristeen condition to use, and not 10 (or less) rounders.
So, I know this is long winded, but what I do is surf the web, graze the gun shows and whenever I see a new (factory original or Mecgar) hi-cap mag for a gun I own or want, I pick it up. I then put a few magazines full of ammo through it and then retire it to the holding drum with a good oiling.
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I normally carry a J-frame(five shot).38 so obviously I don't think I will need 15 or more rounds. Despite that, for every semi-automatic pistol I own, I have purchased pre-ban factory hi-cap(full capacity) mags if they were available for that particular pistol. Some of them have been expensive but I believe they are a good investment. They are worth it to me but they may not be to you or someone else.
Piggy,
FWIW, I'd go w/ a Hi-Cap magazine. At least one.
Yes, I know they're $75, but in a few years if you have a change of heart, they may be twice that much, Janet Reno or no Janet Reno. Then there's the question of availability.
I hate the 10 round limit as much as anyone, that's why I grin and bear it and fork my $ over...now
Hope you're happy whichever way you decide to go...
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FWIW, I'd go w/ a Hi-Cap magazine. At least one.
Yes, I know they're $75, but in a few years if you have a change of heart, they may be twice that much, Janet Reno or no Janet Reno. Then there's the question of availability.
I hate the 10 round limit as much as anyone, that's why I grin and bear it and fork my $ over...now
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I'd say about all that could justify the expense of the 17-rounders is if you look at them as investments. That would, to me, mean that you get them AND 10 rders, like Peter, but you're talking about choosing between the two so I assume you want mags to use.
I'm in the same boat and watching every penny, so I consider $75 for a mag to be way too much when the 10-rd mags for my Glock are about $15 in some places. If I had the money I'd probably get at least one hi-cap, but then I'd have lots of neat stuff! I've been told that this makes me a "vacuous ingrate" but it makes sense to me. Basically the first 10 rds cost $15 and the next 7 rds cost $60. People who carry have to decide if that's worth it. I can't carry so it's definitely not to me.
I'm in the same boat and watching every penny, so I consider $75 for a mag to be way too much when the 10-rd mags for my Glock are about $15 in some places. If I had the money I'd probably get at least one hi-cap, but then I'd have lots of neat stuff! I've been told that this makes me a "vacuous ingrate" but it makes sense to me. Basically the first 10 rds cost $15 and the next 7 rds cost $60. People who carry have to decide if that's worth it. I can't carry so it's definitely not to me.
I got 12rd magazine for my HK USP which cost me twice of what 10rd mags do. I did it becaus ehaving agun that i know is crippled bugs me. With Glocks, the way the capacity is limited also affects reliability and, in some calibers, the nominal 10 rounds are actually 9. I'd get at least one, esp. if the gun is meant for fighting and normally holds a lot more than 10. I'd likely pass on 11-rd mags though.
I tried to center my buying around designs that don't hold more than ten anyway, which means compact sidearms (no need for the bulk of a big pistol if it only holds ten) or larger calibers (.45 instead of 9mm)
I tried to center my buying around designs that don't hold more than ten anyway, which means compact sidearms (no need for the bulk of a big pistol if it only holds ten) or larger calibers (.45 instead of 9mm)
I have both for my Glock 19.
For carrying I load a hi cap and
carry a spare ten rounder.
For IDPA, I use the ten rounders.
By the way, every one of my ten rounders
will hold eleven rounds after the spring
has taken its initial set. Yes, it's
difficult to get the eleventh round in,
but it does fit and there are no feeding
problems.
For carrying I load a hi cap and
carry a spare ten rounder.
For IDPA, I use the ten rounders.
By the way, every one of my ten rounders
will hold eleven rounds after the spring
has taken its initial set. Yes, it's
difficult to get the eleventh round in,
but it does fit and there are no feeding
problems.
Just for info...
Out here in California we can no longer purchase any magazines or sell any mags over 10 rounds. For example if you have a Glock 19 with a hicap mag you can't sell the mag with the gun, you might as well throw it away. My father-in-law purchased a HK preban for his USP for $100 (before this law), now he wants to sell the gun but he loses $100 bucks of the top. Of course you could just ignore the law but they (State DOJ) are dying to catch us "gun runners". Is anybody out there interested in moving to sunny Cali?
Out here in California we can no longer purchase any magazines or sell any mags over 10 rounds. For example if you have a Glock 19 with a hicap mag you can't sell the mag with the gun, you might as well throw it away. My father-in-law purchased a HK preban for his USP for $100 (before this law), now he wants to sell the gun but he loses $100 bucks of the top. Of course you could just ignore the law but they (State DOJ) are dying to catch us "gun runners". Is anybody out there interested in moving to sunny Cali?
I don't know if I'd "stock up" with high cap mags, but I'd certainly get one or two.
Right now they are illegal to buy new unless you are LEO or they were mfg before Sept 1994. Whose to say that they won't eventually become illegal to OWN? I'd sure hate to have all sorts of money tied up into something I couldn't sell in the future.
JMHO,
Ben
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Right now they are illegal to buy new unless you are LEO or they were mfg before Sept 1994. Whose to say that they won't eventually become illegal to OWN? I'd sure hate to have all sorts of money tied up into something I couldn't sell in the future.
JMHO,
Ben
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Remember that the 10rnd law runs out in 4 years & is to be reviewed in 2004.
Things might be better then ?
Why not be unPC & get a 30rnd mag for it ?
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Things might be better then ?
Why not be unPC & get a 30rnd mag for it ?
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. . . the 10rnd law runs out in 4 years & is to be reviewed in 2004.
Things might be better then ?
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Things might get better or they might get worse and then the prices that we see now might seem like a bargin.
I would say that it depends on the gun. I wouldn't pay a higher price for a hi-cap mag for my S&W 4006 because it only gives me one extra round (11 vs 10) but I would (and did) get them for my P14-45 because in my opinion (and maybe only in my opinion) the 4 extra rounds are worth it.
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. . . the 10rnd law runs out in 4 years & is to be reviewed in 2004.
Things might be better then ?
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Things might get better or they might get worse and then the prices that we see now might seem like a bargin.
I would say that it depends on the gun. I wouldn't pay a higher price for a hi-cap mag for my S&W 4006 because it only gives me one extra round (11 vs 10) but I would (and did) get them for my P14-45 because in my opinion (and maybe only in my opinion) the 4 extra rounds are worth it.
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The main benefit of a hi-cap in my opinion is not having to carry a spare magazine. In some cases the benefit is great such as with Glocks which might increase your 10 rounds to either 15 or 17. But with H&Ks going from 10 to 12 or 13 is as not much a benefit; I still would want to carry an extra magazine. In a stressful multiple assailant situation I know I would be nervous about having just a 5 shot J-frame or a 6/7 shot Kahr. But somehow with 10 rounds as opposed to 15 I don't feel handicapped. The cost of hi-caps is outrageous and the way I look at it buying a few hi-caps prevents me from buying another gun.
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I have REG-Caps for the guns I own, but use the socialist LOW-Caps for plinking around. Any gun that I own I will slowly purchase Reg-Caps for. Do you only fill your gas tank halfway because you probably won't be driving far? Do you only take 2/3 rds of your paycheck because you don't need much money this week?
I remain completely unconvinced by the argument that says if you cannot solve it in X rounds , then forget it.If you wan't to carry less rounds because of concealment or weight than get a Kahr P9, Glock 26/27, Kel-tec etc. That I can understand. But carrying a full size gun with only ten rounds because a Reg-cap costs more? Geeze,think of how many sharp sticks you could have bought for the same price. What if there is more than one BG? What if you need suppressive fire to escape? What if your escape turn into a stand-off? What if you waste the first shots on body armour?
Do you think the guns were designed that way because they wanted to sell extra bullets?
I remain completely unconvinced by the argument that says if you cannot solve it in X rounds , then forget it.If you wan't to carry less rounds because of concealment or weight than get a Kahr P9, Glock 26/27, Kel-tec etc. That I can understand. But carrying a full size gun with only ten rounds because a Reg-cap costs more? Geeze,think of how many sharp sticks you could have bought for the same price. What if there is more than one BG? What if you need suppressive fire to escape? What if your escape turn into a stand-off? What if you waste the first shots on body armour?
Do you think the guns were designed that way because they wanted to sell extra bullets?
I cannot bring myself to spend for one standard capacity magazine what I would for three postban ones. I think that the ten rounds have actually made me a better shooter. For me less is more. Of course I do my part to write my political "betters" to inform them of my discontent. Hopefully if we all do our part we may yet see the repeal of this ridiculous legislation.
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FWIW,
You will occasionally hear a report that the Glock 10 rounders are slightly less reliable that the factory high-caps. They are certianly harder to insert into a closed slide.
You will occasionally hear a report that the Glock 10 rounders are slightly less reliable that the factory high-caps. They are certianly harder to insert into a closed slide.
pluspinc.....Here in Kaliforniarama it is also illegal to sell a gun to someone else. You must go to a gun shop and do what is called a "private party transfer" and the buyer must then wait 10 days to come back and get it so you would have to put the bag near the post with a "DO NOT OPEN FOR 10 DAYS" sign on it.
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