Do you still believe in asking the govt permission to exercise a right?

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Another reason why I don't believe in permission slips......



>News/Current Events News Keywords: TAKING NAMES IN WYOMING
>Source: AP
>Published: 2/5/01 Author: ELISABETH A. WRIGHT
>Posted on 02/05/2001 15:12:06 PST by anniegetyourgun
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>CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) - A judge sided with a Gillette newspaper Thursday in
>ordering the state to release the names of about 7,000 people permitted to
>carry concealed weapons in Wyoming.
>
>First District Judge Edward Grant rejected an attempt by the Wyoming
>Division of Criminal Investigation to keep the names private. The agency
>argued releasing the names would violate the privacy rights of and possibly
>endanger permit holders.
>
>The Gillette News-Record sought the names after the number of permits rose
>sharply following a 1994 law that makes it easier to obtain such permits.
>
>The order will not take effect pending an appeal by the state, Grant said.
>
>State attorney Bryan Skoric said he plans to appeal and although he is
>disappointed with the ruling, the judge said the privacy of permit holders
>is a legitimate issue.
>
>Grant said a good case could be made in the political arena about why the
>names of permit holders should be kept secret, although state law does not
>specifically keep the names private.
>
>"If I were a permit holder, which by the way I am not, I would very
>strongly resent that my name could be published," he said.
>
>Ann Franscell, publisher and editor of the Gillette News-Record, said she
>is pleased with the ruling but thinks changing public sentiment against
>releasing the names could be an uphill battle.
>
>The newspaper does not intend to print the entire list of names but to
>contact people who hold permits and interview them for stories about the
>effectiveness of the law, she said.
>
>Government oversight is also important, she said. A story by the Los
>Angeles Times found that some felons obtained concealed weapons permits
>under a Texas concealed weapons law, she said.
>
>"For every argument that could be negative, there is also a positive," she
>said.
>
>A bill moving through the Legislature would keep the names private. It
>passed the Senate on Wednesday. A petition of about 1,900 signatures
>opposed the newspaper's request.
>
>In court, Tom Pagel, director of the Division of Criminal Investigation,
>said releasing the names could make his agency vulnerable to lawsuits by
>permit holders who believed their identities were confidential.
>
>Permit holders' property could be burglarized for guns if their concealed
>weapon permits are made public, he said. Also, people involved in disputes
>with permit holders might arm themselves before a confrontation, which
>could cause disputes to escalate into gunfire, he said.
>
>Skoric argued that Legislature intended to keep the names private when it
>wrote the law.
>
>A state law prevents information about a driver's license holder from being
>made public. The permit law suggests a similar intention because it
>protects the confidentiality of comments made by law enforcement during a
>background check on an applicant, he said.
>
>"The whole logic behind the reason for a concealed arms permit is that it's
>concealed," he said.
>
>Grant said the Legislature was not explicit.
>
>"How can they have specifically thought about one portion (of the law) but
>not the rest of it, if the intent was not to subject these people to
>disclosure?" he said.
 
Asking permission and paying for a RIGHT......

turns that RIGHT into a PRIVILEDGE...... with which big brother can do ANYTHING it wants......
 
This little excercise in tyranny is a precurser to the real reason to not put your fingerprints on the card and get a CCL.

Didn't Mr. Hitler require certain citizens to obtain a 'government' certificate prior to owning or purchasing any firearm. I wonder why that was?

Regards,
MP
 
I totally agree with you. However, having lived in VT, where there is no need to get a permission slip; OH, where it is impossible, and criminal to carry concealed; and CO, where I was fortunate to know the right people so that a police chief might issue me a permit for $200 I can say that I think shall-issue, like in WY is better than nothing. It's a step in the right direction, the lesser of two evils.

For what it's worth, at least the government in WY seems to be on the side of the CWP holders and their privacy, versus the newspaper. Hopefully the bill will become a law, and not only will this be a non-issue, but permits such as mine, that are issue by counties and cities but valid staewide, will be valid in WY.

I am planning to move to WY in the fall to start law school, and if this law does not pass, I will be legally obliged to go unarmed until I have been there six months, and can apply for an in-state permit.

All because of those two a$$holes who shot up their high school.
 
When in places...

...where Big Brother is munificent enough to offer a permission slip, I attempt to obtain one.
 
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