Do you feel your .gov has made you a felon?

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After posting my comment on the [Link to invalid post] thread.. I got to thinking about something... Okay, I might have only been born in '78.. and many of the firearm-related laws that affect us daily have been passed here and there -- mostly all of them before I "came of age" to be firearm savvy. Such subjects as this often escape thought because I care not to put to much time or effort into them as it will inevitably raise my blood pressure or get me all axious to call certain individuals "treasonous ba$tards."

Back to the point.

My question is this:

Who of "you" think that your .gov has taken steps to make you a felon?
Did this action take place before or after your certain circumstances. Ex. Were you doing something long before someone decided to come along and make it illegal?
or
Do you feel entitled not to obey any and all laws (not because you don't agree with them but) because they are unConstitutional?

Whats your story?

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Yes. I have several AR15's. I'd like to be able to switch the uppers on these rifles but I cannot on a couple uppers because they have those little bayonet lug thingies.

Also, I often do carry my CCW into a Post Office if it's a quick in and out trip. Why would I not be allowed to exercise my right to self defense when in a certain building? I mean, the politicians have their armed guards, right? :rolleyes: Sho why am I not supposed to have my own?

You know, one time while hiding in my closet I actually did put a pre-ban upper on a post-ban lower, just for minute. I sooooo bad...

CMOS

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YES

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Certainly. When hunting, I usually carry a revolver as a backup just in case. Used to walk into Walmarts, Kmarts, etc. as needed for additional food, clothes and supplies. Now you don't even feel you can wear your orange shirt or hat.

Your also made to feel embarassed for being a hunter. I went hunting with a friend a couple of years ago and his truck broke down. We made it to town (Kremling CO) and tried to get a hotel room for the night and were told we were not welcome. So we hitch hiked back to Denver. Thankfully some other gun owner picked us up and we made it home.

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Robert
Littleton CO
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pretty much yeah. in some ways.

one of my bitches is auto knives, or switchblades as they are commonly known.
inane little boogers but yet still......

same with a lot of the gun laws.
 
An area of constant aggrivation are the laws they have created making it a felony to have a weapon on school grounds: these laws have created shooting galleries where there used to be schools. The miscreants students who bring their guns to school to create mayhem are illegal to start with, but they know they will face no armed opposition, so they act out in their cowardice.
If you want to eliminate school shootings, change the laws to allow/encourage all CCW permit holders to carry ANYWHERE, as SHOULD be the case. I HATE being in a school, on school grounds, un-armed, in a coaching position, knowing that if a situation arose, my pants would be at my ankles, and I would not be a combatant, but a willing victim.
 
Yep. I'm sitting here right now in my home with a pistol under my jacket. I'm a felon. (Relax, Mr. Government. If the cops come, I'll take my jacket off and be legal).

I bought my AR before the ban, so it's legal. But I have a 7 round magazine tube for my Benelli M1 that I can't put on the shotgun because it has a pistol grip.

Idiots.

Dick
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One of the things that I dont understand is why the .gov gives a flip about the law abiding CCW's in the USA! Those are the ones that go out of their way to make smart and responsible gun purchases and to get their CCW's. Criminals do not do ANY of this! They grab a gun cheap or expensive...just as long as it shoots they dont give a damn! Also as for criminals getting CCW's that would land them in jail immediately for past crimes once the app is processed. Again...I dont see why we should be restricted as we are not the ones doing the bad things with guns!

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The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crime. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Thomas Jefferson
 
Past: Was legal, then a felon, then legal again. (Became legal again when an unconstitutional ban on handguns in San Francisco (under DiFi) was overturned. This, in the late 70's).

Present: No comment.

Future: My beliefs are firmly established. Unfortunately, the bureaucratic canine always returns to its own vomit.

Cliff
 
Nope. Do I feel like my Government has become a felon? Yep!

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Not yet, but they're sure workin hard at it.

[This message has been edited by RAE (edited October 25, 2000).]
 
Hmmmm...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>“A strict observance of the laws is doubtless one of the highest duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence of written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who enjoy them with us…”
Thomas Jefferson, Sept 20, 1810[/quote]

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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"
 
Nope. Keep in mind that laws adopted in defiance of the Constitution are empty words, with no legitimate legal force, and one is NOT a criminal if one violates them, even before the courts have struck them down. This according to the Supreme court, a very long standing legal rule in this country. No, I've never violated a law the government had any constitutional authority to enact.

Well, except maybe speeding...

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrBigglesworth:
One of the things that I dont understand is why the .gov gives a flip about the law abiding CCW's in the USA! Those are the ones that go out of their way to make smart and responsible gun purchases and to get their CCW's. Criminals do not do ANY of this!
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Because the government doesn't care whether you're a law-abiding citizen or not. NO GOVERNMENT, including ours, willingly allows its citizens to own weapons. The total disregard the federal, state and local governments show for the Second Amendment should make that clear. Whatever freedom you have to own or carry a weapon exist purely because large numbers of _citizens_ demanded it and the governments of the 31 states with "shall issue" CCW laws didn't dare refuse.

Don't think for a moment that they _like_ it. If the political cover existed, they'd rescind the CCW laws and ban the guns this afternoon. Citizens familiar with and willing to use personal weapons are a threat to anyone with ambition in government--and they know it.

As for criminals not obeying these laws--they know that too. But they _need_ criminals; if there were no criminals, they'd have nothing to do, no excuse for passing more laws, and no excuse for demanding more money to enforce those laws. Gun control isn't aimed at reducing crime--it's purely aimed at reducing the number of armed citizens and it always has been.
 
You can't even imagine. In doing research for a history paper concerning gun control (research ongoing, paper unfinished) I have found myself to be a felon in quite a few ways. It scares the *&%#@ out of me. I don't know too many who couldn't be hammered on some obscure statute and become a paper felon. I've found many laws I unknowingly broke, and many that I refuse to abide by. My paper doesn't address this deeply, but when I do finish it, I will post it for "peer review!"
 
Am I/have I been a felon? Probably.

Do I feel like a felon (or even care)? No.

I will never feel bad for doing somthing that does not intrinsically harm others, regardless of what the Govt. thinks.

That's what Jury Nullification is all about.
 
YUP!

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Do you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. We're after power and we mean it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breakings laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted-and you create a nation of law breakers--and then you cash in on guilt.
A RAND

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