Do you bring a back-up gun when going off into the unknown?

FUD

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While this isn't as exciting as what happened to loknload [Link to invalid post], it was still something that I could have done without.

It's 4:54am and everyone is sound asleep when the doorbell suddenly rings. I tumble out of bed and my first thought is to open the door quickly before the person can ring the bell again -- we just put the little one to bed a couple of hours earlier after an exhausting few hours of trying to make her fall asleep and I didn't want the doorbell to wake her up again.

However, as I was putting on my pants, sleep began to leave my mine and more logical reasoning began to settle in. While it could have been a neighbor in need, it could also have been someone with less honorable intentions and so I grabbed my S&W5906 -- sixteen rounds of 9mm (I still haven't decided [Link to invalid post"[Link to invalid postl", please feel free to do so[/url]).

As I began to make my way to the front door with my gun in hand, my wife began screaming in a loud whisper (so as not to wake the baby) not to open the door. I installed one of those 2" peep holes which gives you a wide angle view of outside but it needs a lot of light to be useful so I really couldn't see who was out there. I stood by the front door for about 5 minutes just listening. After not hearing anything, I spend another 5-10 walking around the inside of the house also listening to see if there were any noises coming from the outisde -- either from the bushes or someone trying the windows or other doors.

I then went back to bed and I must have laid there for another 15 minutes trying to listen before drifting off to sleep. After falling into a nice deep sleep, the doorbell began ringing again at 6:07am but this time it wasn't just one ring but multiple, continous rings. I once again put on my pants and grabbed my gun.

The continous ringing woke up the baby and instead of telling me not to go outside (like she did earlier), this time my wife was telling me to go out there to see who it was and what they wanted. Just as I was about to open the door, I got to thinking ... suppose the person catches me off guard from the side and jumps me. If a struggle developes over my gun, depending on his size & fighting experience level, I could be at a disadvantage -- he could disarm me and then I could be looking down the end of my own gun.

So, before opening the door, I decided to grab a back-up gun and placed a S&W3913 in an inside the waist belly band just under my shirt. I then opened the door with my S&W5906 in hand but with the safety engaged thinking that if someone did try to get the gun away from me and we started struggling over the weapon, in all likelihood, the person would not be able to identify the firearm and it would take them a few seconds to realize that the gun was on safe, locate & disenage the safety. During those few seconds, I could bring my back-up gun into action.

Anyway, that was my thinking pattern as I slowly opened the front door to discover that there was nobody by the doorbell but it was still ringing -- obviously a short-circuit! I carefully looked around the corners of the house to make sure that there was nobody around. Then I secured the larger S&W5906 while still wearing the smaller S&W3913 in the belly band as I got a screw driver and attempted to fix the doorbell.

This whole thing got me to thinking as to what other TFL members would have done (or have done) when/if faced with a similar situation and do you think it's a good idea to have a back-up gun when facing the unknown where your primary gun might be snatched away from you?

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Anyway, that was my thinking pattern as I slowly opened the front door to discover that there was nobody by the doorbell but it was still ringing -- obviously a short-circuit! I carefully looked around the corners of the house to make sure that there was nobody around. Then I secured the larger S&W5906 while still wearing the smaller S&W3913 in the belly band as I got a screw driver and attempted to fix the doorbell.
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[This message has been edited by JimDiver (edited September 07, 2000).]
 
FUD. A 2" peep hole, no light. Add a light outside so you can see, with the switch on the inside by the door.

Disconect the doorbell from the inside at the bell, you wont have to go outside.

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In my case the outside of the door area would be well lit, along with the rest of my perimiter. And yes, I probably would have backup weapon at hand while evaluating the situation.

Possibly your smoking ceiling fan fixture has communicated with the doorbell and there is now a conspiracy tween them to keep you sharp.

Did you solve the fan/light problem?

Sam
 
Oh man.. I thought this was going to be an exciting post.

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Had a issue a few nights ago that made me do just the same. I'm finishing up my shift at my second job. It's about 2:30 am and the wife calls. "Someone is in the back yard". I'm about 20 minutes away so I tell her to call the Police and grab the dogs, her Taurus .44 special and wait for me.

I get home rather fast. She says she didn't call the Police because she heard someone jump the fence after she turned on the lights. I am wearing my H&K USP40 but I grab my Beretta and a flash light before I head out back. I have a few spot lights but my back yard is about an acre so I can't light it all. Anyway I checked the shed and the work shop. All secure. Must have been some kids or an animal. For some reason I just felt better about having 2 pistols. I know I am really careful but who knows if somone is in a tree or on the roof of my garage and I come walking by.... Just better to have two and not need the second one.

By the way FUD. You really have some strange luck. Ever been struck by lightning or won the lottery?

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Sam, the fan/light guy is coming next week. I rescheduled because I wanted to first try using lower watts and readjust the light covers to see if that would resovle the problem -- it didn't.

KaMaKaZe, how exciting could a doorbell story be? Contrary to what others might believe, I lead a pretty quite, boring life.

B9mmHP, There is a light but it's high (like 20' above the door) and the wattage limit is 60 which gives off very little light for the peep hole to be effective -- it's one of those that has a camera lense ... don't know it you ever saw them or not but just like with a camera, you need a good deal of light for it to be effective.

Thanks Ledbetter.

DannyO, Struck by lighting? No. But I win the lottery just about every week. I buy $10 in tickets and usually hit 3 numbers winning about $4.50 -- it's better then not winning anything.
 
Into the unkown??

like hearing your buddy whisper ..
"dude?" (are you hiding in the closet with a knife)

or or we talking about bailing out of a rushing helicopter in hostile territory? (which i certainly haven't done)

or are we talking about takjing out the garbage (guess I'll take the 416 Rigby those sewer rats are vicious buggers)

or are we talking Hmmmm.. I've never hunted THAT section of woods before... maybe I should have a Pistol (to signal with In case I fall and break my damn fool leg.)

or are we talking about hmmmmm lets go climb that long lost plateau in the andes (where dinosaurs might be lurking alongside colombian drug lords and lost inca gold)

Maybe I'm not as paranoid as some of you.. I'm definitely not as paranoid as some of my IDPA buddies, most of whom DO NOT live in a major urban center (Denver). Why all the paranoia? I'm the guy living in downtown .. I'm not paranoid.

What-ifs and maybe's aside.. situational awareness is key.. why WOULD it occur to you to FIX the dang doorbell at 4 am? Unplug the wires leading into the bell and go back to bed.. that stuff can wait until morning. Answering the door at 4am.. of course you look first.. if you don't like the looks of the person call the cops.. if its a cop the dispatcher WILL confirm it (in my area anyway)

Its 4am and your baby is crying do you grab your cocked and locked 30 round goblin zapper or a bottle of similac?

Sometimes these threads crack me up.. at other times they make me go... sheesh, move into a bunker in montana and seal the door behind you. With concrete ;)

(rant mode off)
 
Fud,

I would have taken my "house gun de jour" (right now an H&K USP .45 Tactical), gone to the front door (steel by the way), looked through the peephole, and waited. I would not have opened the door without absolute certainty that the situation was entirely benign.

Presuming the second knock and a stranger, I would have assessed the situation and perhaps opened the door to ask, "what the hell do you want", keeping the H&K USP concealed.

Bottom Line: The house is your primary protection and I would not easily open the door.

Regards.

[This message has been edited by RWK (edited September 07, 2000).]
 
I carry a back up gun all the time.... one of the things I learned rom hangin around pro gun cops all the time :cool:
 
I was a cop for 13 years and always, ALWAYS carried a backup. The make, model, and type of weapon changed (Smith .38 revolver, Walther PPK/S .380, Sig Sauer .380) but I was never without the backup. Call me paranoid or accuse me of having a bunker mentality, but I still say, take whatever precautions you need to protect you and yours.

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